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You see I just fell into the trap I wanted to warn about! Assuming the other persons come from the same place I do.

My comment came out of my knowledge of NLP, which says, it is always the sender who is responsible if the listeners understands the message. This means the sender has to go into the world of the listener and adjust his language to the world of the listener. This means we need to learn about the world of the listener - same as walking in someone elses shoes. Then adjust the language to the adressee's language. I not only mean words, but also the pictures and feeling need to be adjusted.

This is not necessarily easy and at times downright challenging if the way of thinking and experiencing of the other person is very different ones own world.

Wish I had time to write more, but have to get going again.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 21st, 2007 at 09:31:37 AM EST
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You are absolutely right to remind us that we need to communicate so as to make our ideas understandable to each and every listener. And that this makes significant demands on anyone who wishes to communicate a serious message.

But the way you frame it here, it sounds like listening is a passive activity. Don't the listeners need to participate as well ("active listening")?

You're right that we who enjoy talking about stuff like this need to adapt our communication modes to the sensibilities of those who don't. But we are still at a disadvantage that our message is inherently less interesting for the listeners than theater, Big Brother or whatever else it is that floats their boat.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Jun 21st, 2007 at 10:11:54 AM EST
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But the way you frame it here, it sounds like listening is a passive activity. Don't the listeners need to participate as well ("active listening")?

In an ideal world yes! I think most party members would probably be more active listeners, but I have my doubt even about that. The thing is we want something from the people - we want them to vote for the Left! So we have to be interesting enough for them to be able to make the shift from passiv to active listening. So the responsibility is with those who want something.

I think often listening to the left there is a lot of metatalk - this is not a way to involve most people. Most people have a favorite topic that gets them interested and that is themselves. When they can see and feel and how voting for the Left will improve their lives the will listen and vote. And I am not talking about monetary promises only, but also quality of life in general.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 21st, 2007 at 10:24:10 AM EST
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