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Speaking of WW2 - here's a page from the nazi manual on  "enhanced interrogation techniques", with some analysis.
by jv (euro@junkie.cz) on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 10:22:35 AM EST
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It is worth noting that the analysis is by Andrew Sullivan. In closing, he writes:
What I am reporting is a simple empirical fact: the interrogation methods approved and defended by this president are not new. Many have been used in the past. The very phrase used by the president to describe torture-that-isn't-somehow-torture - "enhanced interrogation techniques" - is a term originally coined by the Nazis. The techniques are indistinguishable. The methods were clearly understood in 1948 as war-crimes. The punishment for them was death.


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by technopolitical on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 02:56:18 PM EST
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Is there any doubt that the Bush Administration has committed Crimes Against Humanity as defined by the Nuremberg Charter? The problem is to prosecute them.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 05:18:26 PM EST
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You'd probably have them on crimes against peace, and war crimes too

The following acts, or any of them, are crimes coming within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal for which there shall be individual responsibility:

(a) CRIMES AGAINST PEACE: namely, planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;

(b) WAR CRIMES: namely, violations of the laws or customs of war. Such violations shall include, but not be limited to, murder, ill-treatment or deportation to slave labor or for any other purpose of civilian population of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war or persons on the seas, killing of hostages, plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity;

(c)CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: namely, murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.

Leaders, organizers, instigators and accomplices participating in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit any of the foregoing crimes are responsible for all acts performed by any persons in execution of such plan.



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 05:58:51 PM EST
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My brain can´t process this

"b)  ... military necessity;"

When will this become commonly unacceptable as the factoid, contradiction, oxymoron... it is?  The necessity only exists in sociopaths´ minds and snowballs with their ilk.

How about a "peace necessity"?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 06:58:53 PM EST
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Military necessity isn't a catch all get out of jail free card in international law.

best peice of reading is probably here

The whole book is a good grounding in ethics and morality in Military situations as it exists in international law.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 07:17:05 PM EST
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isn't that last paragraph important, that's the bit that should really have Bush, Blair, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Howard and Aznar sleeping unsoundly at night.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Tue Jun 5th, 2007 at 07:28:57 PM EST
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