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I didn't say we should abolish the minimum wage or the welfare state, or even social engineering as a concept. I said we should not regulate how many hours you should be able to work.

If you want to work 60 hours a week at the minimum wage to (eventually) afford a BMW, please do! I'd rather work 30 hours and ride my bike.

But who am I to say you are doing the wrong thing and I am doing the right? It's a matter of preferences. Some people value income over leisure, and some do the opposite. Let people decide this for themselves.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Jun 9th, 2007 at 12:38:58 PM EST
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What about when the option is: you can work 60h or get fired? Or, you can agree to work 60h or never even get hired? I'm afraid that this is the deal 'freedom' will offer.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Sat Jun 9th, 2007 at 12:41:55 PM EST
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Especially when fewer and fewer people are needed in high-value-added jobs, and the population is overeducated given the productivity and the demand.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 9th, 2007 at 12:47:49 PM EST
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If you want to work 60 hours a week at the minimum wage to (eventually) afford a BMW, please do! I'd rather work 30 hours and ride my bike.

But who am I to say you are doing the wrong thing and I am doing the right? It's a matter of preferences. Some people value income over leisure, and some do the opposite. Let people decide this for themselves.

The ironic thing here is that I think that you've misinterpreted the social conditioning of preferences with individual choice.  

In one word.  

Lagom

Is your preference for leisure over seeking further material gains the result of the rational calculation of utitilies to choose the option providing the greatest utility, or is this socially conditioned, such that the formal organization of work by law is unneccesary because social norms condtion preferences to an extent that it's unneccesary?

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sat Jun 9th, 2007 at 01:13:52 PM EST
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In all countries in the world including France you can work 24 hours per day, so 168 hours per week if you want too.

It's just that you can't be an employee of some corporation if you want to work more than 48 hours per week (or some other limit depending on the country).

Just offer your work as a contractor on a per job basis and there is no regulation in the total hours worked.

So you can get your BMW, even in France.

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Jun 9th, 2007 at 04:58:04 PM EST
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