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I would have said the same about your hanging door, BTW.

It seems to me the key resource that these things require is time in long, uninterrupted chunks, so one can afford to be patient about the work. Maybe I should step off the hamster wheel for a decade or six.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 07:41:52 AM EST
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Patience is an over-rated virtue when it comes to making things.  I should know--I have ZERO patience.

Persistence, on the other hand, can NEVER be over-rated.  Nor can the importance of finishing things.  If you never finish anything, you never learn how much work is involved.  So if you decide to try a project, start with something simple--something that you can complete.  I tend to roll my eyes whenever I hear that someone is going to try to rebuild a '65 Jaguar XKE (or something equally difficult) as a first project.

But if you need a way to get away from the craziness of academic life, this is perfect.  And the people you meet are facinating.  I met a guy by chance last Sunday morning who had built three airplanes--a replica of the Wright Flyer, the replica of a 1917 Curtiss Jenny that hangs in the Minnesota Historical Society, and the Pietenpol Air Camper he was showing my friend and I.  This guy is GOOD!  He had machined his own turnbuckles--for goodness sakes!  It was hard not to actually drool on his airplane.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 08:25:01 AM EST
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When I was working on my roof reinforcement project I found I had to take everything very much more slowly than I usually do because the possibility of a putting a foot through a ceiling (at best) or finding myself trapped under a collapsed roof (at worst) was very real.

My general experience with DIY is that everything takes four times longer than you expect, almost by definition.  There is always at least one unexpected problem ing which distracts from the original idea and has to be solved before progress is possible.

When I was putting up the lighting over the weekend I found that the cable box I'd used wasn't flush with the ceiling. So I had to spend an extra forty minutes or so cutting a hole for it first - and a fairly simple job turned into a less simple one.

This is why I'm not very romantic about DIY. In theory it's good for the soul, but mostly it feels time-wasting distraction to me. Even when the results are good - the lighting makes a huge difference to the studio/gallery - I don't much enjoy it, and I can easily think of other things I'd rather be doing.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 08:47:01 AM EST
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I would need a virtually infinite amount of time available in order not to crash through the roof in an impatient fit of rage.

So, yes, patience may be overrated and I do need to work on the followthrough, but for me patience (and probably 10 times more time than budgeted) is it.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 10:34:39 AM EST
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The trick, you see, is to embrace the fact that everything takes four times longer than expected and there will be surprises along the way.

I used to be annoyed by these realities as well.  Now, I expect them.  And of course, the world being as perverse as it is, once you become mentally prepared for the big distraction, it doesn't show up ;-)

I haven't done this sort of thing for maybe 25 years.  Now that my S.O. knows about my skills, she dreams up new uses for them.  Fortunately, projects seem to go a LOT smoother than I remember.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:21:32 PM EST
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The problem is partly that if you're not an expert, every job involves solving new problems for the first time.

I'd guess if you've been doing it for a while it gets to be more a case of 'This is probably going to happen, and then I'm going to solve it this other way.'

If it's all new, it's more of a challenge.

Also - tools. The professionals have the specialised tools, and they know which ones they need. If you're new to the game it's not obvious which tools are required, or even if they exist. (An obvious example being the tap spanner, which turns a horrendous under-the-sink job into something rather easier.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:35:24 PM EST
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Ah yes--specialized tools.

  1.  I don't do plumbing.  Not too proud--just too big to get under sinks, etc.

  2. With the big box building stores, getting great tools is quite inexpensive.  Specialized tools can be rented.  But the BEST way to get the tools you need is to know a bunch of people who have plenty of tools they rarely use.  Tool and skill sharing is how the middle of USA was settled.  I grew up in a town where if your neighbor wasn't home, you just went into his shop and borrowed the tools you needed.  Of course, there were a bunch of social constraints on this behavior, but generally speaking it worked VERY well.


"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"
by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 01:03:31 PM EST
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You think I'm in academic life?

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 08:52:14 AM EST
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you are not?

what about your email address?

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:14:00 PM EST
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It's a legacy address I use as a spam filter.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:23:14 PM EST
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Oh!
Sorry!

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"
by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:33:08 PM EST
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I though by "writing about esoteric subjects" you meant my blogging.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:39:32 PM EST
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almost eveything you write counts

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"
by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:43:47 PM EST
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Sorry.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:51:46 PM EST
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