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Does that mean we're screwed?

Seriously, if successful science learning depends on either having a one-in-a-million instructor or being a one-in-50,000 student, there would seem to be little hope of communicating meaningful science to the population at large.

If it is not possible for a curriculum to make a difference, we're left with little to talk about.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 07:53:11 AM EST
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The curriculum is a minor factor compared to the teacher and, especially, the student.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 07:56:57 AM EST
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All my science teachers were duds.  (I am being VERY charitable here)  I lived in small towns and anyone who knew science could get MUCH better jobs elsewhere.  Yet by 16, I was one of 250 National Science Foundation scholars in USA.  So one could conclude that:

  1. Teachers don't help that much
  2. There is so much science all around us we can pick it up by simple contact
  3. Its much more important to learn why we should study science than to learn the details


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by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 01:23:32 PM EST
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Well, it depends on what your goal is. If you want science education, we're indeed screwed. If you want science instruction, well, mechanical teaching of tools and repeated standarised testing will finally select a small population of technically competent scientists.

But don't listen to me, my own science education was clearly an abysmal failure.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 08:01:22 AM EST
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Define "communicating meaningful science". What exactly do you want to achieve?

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 08:09:31 AM EST
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I don't scientifically literate people need to understand F=ma or even E = mc^2. In reality people don't seem to understand them anyway, even if they can quote them.

What I'd like to see is much more appreciation of critical thinking, trial and error - no, you don't get the answer right the first time - and the empirical method applied to processes and situations from everyday life, rather than being reserved for lab situations with ripple tanks and oscilloscopes and other doodads and thingummies.

Understanding science as policy direction is possibly more useful than optics to most people.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 08:44:15 AM EST
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So what matters is the method, not the subject matter.

And (see Feyerabend) "the method" is not what elementary science books teach in their "scientific method" chapters (another example of good curriculum destroyed by rote and bad teaching) but rather a critical-thinking attitude to problem solving.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 08:47:14 AM EST
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