Lightning!

Science is cutting edge, and moaning about how stupid people are is not cutting edge, it is reactionary.  Some people are stupid.  Why?  How do we educate people so we aren't overwhelmed by stupidity?

Heh heh!

People used to believe the sun rose every day.  They needed astronomers to explain the eclipses.  But...how stupid were people that they needed such fears assuaged?

I see science, as a method, as...pffff...the history of method.  How did we learn to walk, talk, move, eat?  Trial, error, hypotheses tested by experience.  It was only when science delved beyond the senses that scientists told us "This is true, strange though it may be."

And yet (and so) I don't respect scientists who work for large pharmaceuticals.  I'm not saying they're evil, but I don't see any high moral dimension to such activity.  Ditto those who make explosives, or...these days...any endeavour that isn't based around limit, recycle, reuse, reduce, fine elements used to maximum advantage...

I think astrology (a loud irritating note for many) is simply decadent astronomy.  The fact that these people know when the moon gets up and when it goes to bed is, for me, a positive, because at least they're tied into, in some way, the long cycles.  The moderately rich banker who ponders, between sniffs, the global cost of the house, the sauna, or the jacuzzi, can be useful to finance the next wave of smaller, more efficient, electrified...via solar/wind/wave, yack yack.

Afew!  If you know farming people, are they heading to permaculture, or are they resisting?  The agricultural sciences, the symbiotic scientists are, for me, by far the more enlightened beings.  Propose, test, evaluate.  If it works, it works.  There are some fundamentals, such as "I breathe to live" that only crazy people think should be taxed.  

Maybe the fact that there are too many humans means humans have to hate away a certain percentage.  Like rats in cages, the more we are, the more we bite.  But against that, against that endless irritation created by "the other"...against that defeat of the person in the face of ego logic...

the ego needs to curb itself, get out of the mental car, look around, go some place different, and science is no more and no less than the ability to judge, by experiment, certain experiences.

The ego is partial.  As Chris quoted, ach, science is in man's image ergo: nuclear bombs.  Created in a cultural milieu, where science is part of business, the business of science is money, for the scientists....

I suggest that the green elements of society are, by far, the most scientific and most forward thinking in terms of science.  "Organic", for me, means "without pesticides".  There's something unscientific, for me, in a person who demeans "organic."

Science teaching to primary kids is, effectively, the scientific method.  Hypothesise, test, evaluate.  But if adult society is obsessed by economics, or big brother, or porn, the young will...simply react, which is what we all do.  Action and reaction.  The zen point between the two is as amenable to scientists as anyone.

Yack yack!

Hey!  All that to say, cazang!  Lightning!

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.