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Hi Helen. Don't hide in the shadows too long, they might feel safe but there are all kinds of psychopaths lurking in the corners. 8->

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 4th, 2007 at 12:04:14 PM EST
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Well, the difficulty is that I find I don't understand where the line of what is acceptable has been drawn and so I have lost confidence in my ability to comment on any issue. Hence my silence.

We have discussed political violence, its use and effectiveness, in many guises and contexts on this site. Sometimes bemused, often condemning, but the fact that it exists, or that it might exist in the future, has never been a subject of criticism; until I mentioned it in the context of domestic US politics. At which point exceptionalism and an attack of the vapours kicked in and I found myself subject to censure and a not-particularly-veiled threat of banning.

So I thought I'd jump before I was pushed. You can't participate if you don't know the rules; as I simply can't understand for the life of me why what I said was wrong it seems that I don't.

I await clarification

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jul 4th, 2007 at 12:48:06 PM EST
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Just to make one thing clear: you were asked to be more moderate. You were not "censored" and you were not threatened with anything at all, least of all banning. No one has ever been banned from ET. No one. Why on earth would you be?

So if you're still determined to pump the issue up, that's your decision.

I tried to welcome you back to commenting, but if you want to be silly, go ahead.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 4th, 2007 at 12:58:16 PM EST
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 I made what I felt was a mildly satirical comment as a solution to the bind that an incoming Democratic President would be in over the composition of the USSC. Emphasis on mild.

Indeed, the only way to be more moderate was not to say anything. And yet the attack of the vapours still occured. Is American politics occuring on a rarified plane where such grubby considerations  are unconscionable ? Not so far as I've seen in the last couple of days, yet apparently we aren't allowed to suggest such things. I just don't see why it was wrong and, silly or no, it's undermined my confidence to comment. I'd love to come back but I really need to know why it was wrong.

I didn't know that nobody had been banned, but as we have discussed elsewhere, there is a difference between intention and perception. So I was not threatened with banning, but that's not how it seemed.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jul 4th, 2007 at 01:15:24 PM EST
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by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Wed Jul 4th, 2007 at 05:20:10 PM EST
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don't do that.  there are a couple of people here who wanted to start a feud with me because I thought Paris Hilton should go back to jail and disagreed with them.  I mean, really!  
by zoe on Thu Jul 5th, 2007 at 10:53:42 AM EST
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That's a completely ridiculous characterization of what happened.  No one "wanted to start a feud" with you and the disagreement was not because you thought Hilton should go back to jail.  At the time, I said you were failing to understand the discussion.  Clearly I was right.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 5th, 2007 at 02:09:38 PM EST
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no, I think you are completely wrong and I think you just like to pick fights with people.
by zoe on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 03:36:20 AM EST
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I think you two should just let it go.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 03:41:04 AM EST
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Migeru, when I get flamed simply for disagreeing with someone here, that's really showing that there is no tolerance here.  
by zoe on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 03:59:08 AM EST
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Flames burst out regularly over here, especially on open threads.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 04:09:43 AM EST
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spontaneous combustion?
by zoe on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 09:29:01 AM EST
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You like playing with fire.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 09:48:40 AM EST
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I have had a fever for 2 weeks straight so spontaneous combustion is not such a far-fetched idea.  Tomorrow, they decide to take out my tonsils, I hope.  
by zoe on Mon Jul 9th, 2007 at 09:56:33 AM EST
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