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Sorry for leaving this unanswered yesterday, but I had to leave.

It would be interesting to use the data prior to, say 1975, to see the result. I don't have data prior to 1965, but for Oil, Coal and Natural Gas they likely exist.

Do you want to dig deeper into this? We could try to find that data.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Wed Jul 11th, 2007 at 03:20:32 AM EST
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Yes, I would actually love to see the data.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 11th, 2007 at 03:34:33 AM EST
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Got it, thanks!


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 11th, 2007 at 06:34:49 PM EST
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This is the logistic plot of the "market shares"

It seems that, in terms of market share both nuclear and gas have recently peaked, and the slack is being picked up by coal. As for oil, it peaked during the 1970's oil shocks.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jul 13th, 2007 at 05:55:42 PM EST
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And this is the year-on-year fractional variation:

15 years of "business as usual", and the only salient feature in the last couple of years seems to be the rise of coal.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2007 at 07:54:59 AM EST
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Regarding the secular increase in the aggregate amounts of energy used, I am reminded that although the differential equation

dX1 = a X2 dt
dX2 = -a X1 dt

describes a circle of constant radius, the stochastic (Ito) differential equation

dX1 = a X2 dt
dX2 = -a X1 dt

implies

d(X1^2 + X2^2) = 2X1 dX1 + 2 X2 dX2 + dX1 dX1 + dX2 dX2 = a^2 (X1^2 + X2^2) dt

or

d(R^2) = a^2 R^2 dt

that is, R^2 grows exponentially with time in the stochastic case, even though it is constant in the ordinary case.

So, the secular 2% increase in total energy use might be "explained" by interpreting the extended Fisher - Pry - Marchetti model as a stochastic (Ito) differential equation.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 11th, 2007 at 07:20:12 AM EST
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Pfft! Brainfart alert!
the stochastic (Ito) differential equation

dX1 = a X2 dt
dX2 = -a X1 dt

implies

d(X1^2 + X2^2) = a^2 (X1^2 + X2^2) dt

should be
dX1 = X2 (a dt + s dz1)
dX2 = X1(- a dt + s dz2)

implies

d(X1^2 + X2^2) = a^2 s^2 (X1^2 + X2^2) dt + X1 X2(s1 dz1 + s2 dz2)

Same conclusion, more complicated formulas.


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 11th, 2007 at 07:33:10 AM EST
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More brainfarts. I give up.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 11th, 2007 at 07:39:33 AM EST
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