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Interesting, but even $10/W is still too expensive for anything other than large industrial use.

Current retail prices in the UK are around £6/W for PVs vs 30p/W for solar hot water.

So a £5k PV system will only produce around a third of the household electricity and take around 15-20 years to pay back - longer if batteries need to be replaced.

As I said, prices need to drop substantially - i.e. by at least 75% - before a majority of people start taking PVs seriously as a grid alternative.

The political problem is that the energy companies have no interest in watching 30-80% of their market disappear. And since they have a more powerful lobby group than PV retailers do, I think we're unlikely to see any political support for PVs or solar any time soon.

Which is why the biggest driver of change is going to have to be a huge price drop and increased efficiency.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Aug 15th, 2007 at 09:53:30 AM EST
Or prices of competing power has to go up...

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Aug 15th, 2007 at 10:50:01 AM EST
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Indeed retail is a different market I don't directly talk about here. And price drop is equivalent of price rise in other technologies, eg if we start counting all real costs of oil/gas/coil :).

But one interesting thing is that the Victoria project is using a large number - 19250 - of relatively small CS 500 Heliostat dishes to produce the advertized 154 MW peak, so that's 8 kW peak per dish, so about 1.6 kW assuming 20% load (average price per dish of the plant is 18130 USD).

These numbers for one dish are not far from home consumption so this has great potential as a very distributed system.

by Laurent GUERBY on Wed Aug 15th, 2007 at 11:07:10 AM EST
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Ooops I misunderstood the documentation (and forgot to look at the drawings :), 19250 is the number of mirrors ("heliostats") on ground. It looks like there will be 246 small towers with each 256 PV cells (total 62976) and agregating around 78 mirrors light.


 Plant components:
    Heliostats - 19,250
    Receivers - 246
    PV Modules - 62,976
by Laurent GUERBY on Wed Aug 15th, 2007 at 01:18:30 PM EST
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