Fran must be a Taurus Ceeb I think is a Leo LEP an Aquarius Jerome an Aries Helen a Gemini, no a Cancer and metavision a Capricorn
am I right?
Helen a Gemini, no a Cancer
Some might think my opinions are cancerous, but I'm really just a two faced b*stard, aka gemini.
Interestingly, Mars is in Pisces. the guy who did my chart told me I was transgendered before I'd even fully admitted it to myself. keep to the Fen Causeway
Actually, I´m a wabbit. Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.
Ceebs, a Leo because you like cats, but I wasn't far off - Sadge is a fire sign too
Helen, I said Gemini because you are very cerebral, but then said Cancer because you seem to be home-centered as well
metavision, also earthy
But it's actually very hard for me to do that gracefully. No practice keep to the Fen Causeway
next step is to believe it.
Sorry, strictly reality-based keep to the Fen Causeway
Which would you rather be: right or happy?
Beyond that; it's an easy question with a complicated answer. Happiness right now would be being allowed to be what I am and not be criticised for what I'm not. keep to the Fen Causeway
But this is grin ridiculous. I came to ET to find intelligent discussion based on the left, i.e. humane, side of the spectrum. Why should i be forced to squint my eyes way off to the right of the screen to discern the topical mode of the astrologers in residence?
Let's all move the comments just a bit over to the left side of the screen, or at least we could limit our long, ponderous, even deciduous comments to a fraction of the space necessary to... i mean, if you have to post on the right, why not limit your comments to just one word.
In fact, right now i'm thinking of a word which best describes this comment. And that word encompasses the history of drinking in Russia, where the daily gruel of the peasants was turned into the elixir of making peasant life pleasant life... Wodka! I don't know what sign wodka was born under, but it probably wasn't one of the Twelve. Hey, did you hear the one about Lenin's trippple distilled Tomb?
As long as we're this far out on the right side of the screen, did anyone see the conservative think tank blog which made the case that amurka should nuke Iraq and repopulate it with amurkans, like Ceasar did with France, and then Bush should emulate Ceasar and bring stability by ending the unworkable democracy and setting himself up as long-term Regent? You've probably noticed that i didn't link to the blog, because i'm concerned for the mental health of the ET community, but it exists, and you can get there from Crooks and Liars.
As a lurker, perhaps i've overstepped my bounds treading so far on the right side of this Tribune, but i really did wish to understand the limits of the software, wondering just how far to the right this blog can be pushed. But now that i think of it, that strikes me as a non-productivist idea, leaving me wishing i'd thought of a great one word comment for the right side of the screen.
Wodka!
(The preceeding was an official test of software limits, and should not be disguised or interpreted as reflecting the views of of the aformentioned commenter, whose system may well have been hijacked by russian hackers, and should not be deemed of any major importance in the context of global economic meltdown.) Skennah Kowa
have you had your diva moment yet?
I saw a google video about the Nazis and the occult and it said that Himmler's astrologer had correctly predicted an attempt on Hitler's life on July 20 1944 and Hitler's death in April 1945. I saw his charts and it's all Vedic astrology, and each sign's degree is also subdivided into signs -Vedic astrology only uses some of the planets, so it works out
I'm a Sadge, born November 24. So:
I also have Jupiter in Scorpio, at 24 deg, Ascendant in Scorpio at 29.5 deg, so first house is Sadge and Jupiter playing a big role because it is conjunct to my ascendant and ruler of my first house
I always thought that is why I was tall.
I'm still learning the house systems and am thus easily confused.
(5 days before me so I'm entirely similar) Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
Unfortunately my ascendant appears to rule my sex life and it's waaay far away from "maniac."
Sagitarius came out as The one true perfect star sign (Guess the star sign of the originators) ;-) Scorpios were Bastards Pisces were Drunks and drug adicts and Virgos came out as NEVER trust a Virgo Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
I had an official serenade once when I was in Colombia and it was wonderful. I recommend it to everyone.
the serenading is done in the middle of the night, and wakes up the whole neighbourhood, but nobody complains as soon as they realize it's a serenade.
cheap romanticism? maybe. but I liked it. and so did my ex, and the band, and the whole neighbourhood who listened in.
Genius marketing. ;-) Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
Before I say it, what would those that saw me in Paris guess I am? Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.
The person born on this day deals with the world as a revolutionary in most chart configurations. This is to the credit of Uranus, the ruling planet for this day. The conflict between this planet and Neptune, the ruling planet for Pisces has an effect that might be considered by the people that know this person as being off-center and cynical. After all this nit picking of the person born on this day the attributes that stand out the most is is their true desire to be giving and having genuine concern for the fate of all mankind.
www.birthscopes.com
go to the bottom of the page and select the month you were born in
Uh-oh. You're outnumbered, Jerome. =D
As an economist and investment banker you obviously prefer numerology over astrology. A doo run-run-run, a doo run-run
For me, both come under the heading of 'perceptions'. I do not 'believe' that you can change the world without understanding people's perceptions of that world. It really doesn't matter whether those perceptions are 'wrong' or 'right', they need to be understood in the way that they influence behaviour.
I think astrology is poppycock, but the existence of it is fascinating, just as the existence of all superstition is fascinating. These existences are FACTS.
As you are well aware, a certain amount of social cohesion is needed to drive ET. You are also aware that it takes a tricky balancing act between hierarchy and self-organization to produce content. You can't be me, I'm taken
You think astrology is poppycock (so do I) but that the existence of interest/belief in it is a significant fact (so do I).
The question is how much significance does it have? Should we spend time discussing it here? How much time, and in what way? What light will it throw on what? What effect will it have on ET's overall image?
(BTW, your proposed Jeromic facts-belief dichotomy seems to apply to you too, since you judge astrology "poppycock". How do you reach that conclusion without some category of discernible "facts"? To a true postmodern relativist, nothing is poppycock. Or everything is. Or whatever... ;)) When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
personally, that is an issue I could have lived without knowing anything about
Focus, priorities and social cohesion. You can't be me, I'm taken
But I certainly was NOT saying that astrology discussion should be banned at ET. I was saying it should be discussed in the context of perceptions.
However I think J is over-reacting to an Open Thread; a section of the site that functions for the social cohesiveness of ET. And also reinforcing the impression that ET is 'emotionally challenged' or, in other words, not in touch with its feminine side ;-) You can't be me, I'm taken
BTW Your comment links didn't work for me You can't be me, I'm taken
Social cohesion, I quite agree. I'm not against the discussion here, I joined in. Because I suppose it's good for a laugh, though it's 100% piffle.
For those who take it seriously, I think there are a lot of places on Internet. Once again, what is its value as a serious or regular topic for ET? When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
If anyone had called the subprime credit debacle "piffle", they would have been troll rated.
Let's stay civil please.
I haven't lacked civility towards you (or any other user), mmmm. You, however, say I'm "paternalistic" and that I "decide for everyone what is good for ET". Which is not civil, and is false. I'm not deciding for everyone. Neither, by the way, do you speak for everyone. When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
Because I suppose it's good for a laugh, though it's 100% piffle.
I don't know if I'm misreading how you meant this, but from the way that's written, it looks like you joined in to ridicule it.
Look, afew, I will never, ever tell you to believe in astrology, nor will I tell you to stop personally thinking of it as piffle. But the open threads, and even some diaries, have extolled the virtues of such topics as alcohol, drugs, ayurveda, kittens, road trips, Leicester, cars, gardens, and Harry Potter, and I can guarantee you that anyone reading that sentence recoiled internally and thought, "But there's nothing wrong with that topic!"
That's my point; as annoying as astrology is to you, it's not annoying to others, and a topic that you like to discuss might annoy others (I rejoice in kittens, but there's probably at least one ETer who can't stand the sight of them). So please realize that it's somewhat unrealistic to try to prevent most topics from being discussed, especially by deciding if they fall in the realm of science. I'm trying to be careful how I phrase that because I know you're pretty much just expressing an opinion, but others are going to have their opinions too.
I don't know if I'm being clear or just confusing the situation more, but mmmm has a good point with the drug diaries and threads. Not everyone here is thrilled with those, I'm certainly not. But I've stayed out of them for the most part (I had like one or two posts regarding lung problems) because I know if I tried to stop them there'd be hell to pay. No one would stand for my ridiculing drug use or telling people to stop talking about it. So I'm amazed that astrology elicits the response it does (you've been relatively calm, but I've gotten a couple of rather nasty replies in earlier diaries).
If I'd thought we shouldn't be talking about it in an open thread, I'd have said so much sooner. Of course there are heaps of topics that are discussed in OTs, and I can't think of an occasion when I have spoken against any of them.
But this spat today began when I discussed with Sven his response to Jerome. I think ET has other priorities than discussing astrology. That's an overall view, not a criticism of this particular open thread.
BTW, I think you can perfectly well argue that drug use shouldn't be discussed here (in a manner that "extols its virtues", as you say). You might find yourself supported in surprising quarters.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment. When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
Science is always in flux. It is often wrong. It is always being improved. It is the work of scientists to improve our understanding.
Poetry is not science. You can't be me, I'm taken
What effect will it have on ET's overall image?
We've got an open thread with pictures of stilletto races and crop circles, and you think astrology is the only thing that's gonna make people question our reputation?
as for your question, the answer is no. I doubt I will ever pick a fight with Bob or Fran.
it's very paternalistic to be cherry picking topics like this and deciding which are ok and which are "not good for our reputation"
a very good way to hurt people's feelings and lose contributors
I also apologize for the comments about the discussion about drugs. If anyone wants to talk about that, I am not the arbiter of good taste, and it's as valid as anything I have to say. I was lashing out and that's not right.
men shaving their privates on the other hand ....
I lkove it, when people love to disagree - but I think we had enough. In the end we are just a big ET family! and I guess there are disagreements in every family.
And I hope your statement about not picking a fight with me holds true, mmmmm. :-)
Oh, and lychee this comment is not for you personally, I think it just fits in well in this place. :-)
you would never judge people that way either.
I hope you didn't think the comment about stilletto races was directed at you, either-- I was just using it as an example.
I know there's no sense in telling you to chill out. Or in pointing out the long list of less than intellectually sound material you have posted on such threads in the past. So let's just agree that there are many other diaries and stories to read here if you are in the mood for something more cerebral or reality-based. We're never all going to share the same interests or agree on what is worthy of discussion. But I'm pretty sure that censoring otherwise harmless banter is not the solution to that problem. Learning to peacefully co-exist, on the other hand...
And if the OT is now off limits for silly banter, I'd like to offer up my Odds and Ends series as a safe refuge for anyone wanting to talk about anything they like. :)
And as for the impact discussion of astrology may have on the credibility of the site, I wouldn't worry very much. Most comparable blogs have a healthy dose of silliness accompanying the serious news, debates, initiatives, etc. they exist to promote. I suspect it will remain that way until we are all replaced with robots. Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
:)
http://tomroud.blogspot.com/2007/08/le-cerveau-t-il-un-sexe.html
(has links to rat "scientific" p0rn)
Tom Roud blog is part of Café des sciences where a few PhD write accessible stuff about various sciences.
As for time, I replaced newspaper/book/CD/movie by blogs and web.
And about "old" sex maniacs:
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070820/tod-emirats-paternite-cb1d00a_1.html
Or what other animals could we invite?
(Oh, but I'm not an archer, btw, just a rat...) When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
