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Okay. If it's that simple, consistent and without caveats, shouldn't women who have abortions then be charged with manslaughter or murder?
What should the punishment be for having an abortion? A fine? A prison sentence? The death penalty perhaps?

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Aug 26th, 2007 at 10:41:46 AM EST
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Of course not. That's also an argument used by the right wing. There are laws that allow for executions and for abortions. That does not make either morally right. What I am saying is that the dialogue should not be able the right to have an abortion but how to (1) avoid unwanted pregnancies and (2) better morally deal with those who get an unwanted pregnancy and not make them outcasts (or have medical science find a way to deal directly with unwanted fetuses).

by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2007 at 10:49:02 AM EST
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Well, you're the one claiming that it was simple and without caveats.
But taking life without the express purpose of self-defense is murder or manslaughter. And you characterized abortion where the woman's life is not in danger as the taking of life without the express purpose of self-defense. And, given that a non-spontaneous abortion could be considered premeditated, it follows from your own reasoning that one has to consider abortion to be murder. Either that or it isn't as simple and without caveats as you make it out be.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Aug 26th, 2007 at 11:53:52 AM EST
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As I said there are laws that allow for both executions and abortions. I don't agree with them but there need to be ways to better deal with them.

by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Sun Aug 26th, 2007 at 06:44:50 PM EST
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