"Lots of pharmacists claim conscientious objection to refuse to sell contraceptives." - - - while I am sure there are some religious nut pharmacists in the U.S. I have never heard of one.
"Much more responsible" does not mean "universally responsible". More often than I would have thought possible or liked I hear stories of men telling women they knocked up that it's their problem exclusively because they're the ones getting pregnant." - - - I used to hear that 20 or more years ago. Young people today in the U.S. have been brought up with serious sex education, more open dialogue with parents and doctors, and are making better choices. The only situation I have heard of recently was a young man of 24 and a girl he dated who was a year older. She got pregnant through him. They decided they wanted to child but were not in love to get married. She had the baby and I am sure they have figured out how to manage the situation. I think one major difference was 30 years ago women were not of equal status with men and today they are (and then some).
What you find when you make something illegal (alcohol, abortions, etc.) is as you said people will find a way to do it but it will be in a dangerous way.
You are grossly uninformed. You should do some actual research on the topic (besides reading right-wing propaganda) before having further discussion on the topic.
btw, if you're not pushing for legislation or change in the law, then what is your point, exactly, in discussing this on a political forum? Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
"if you're not pushing for legislation or change in the law, then what is your point, exactly, in discussing this on a political forum?" - - - - You speak of human right issues and I believe if progressives are humanitarians then it should not begin at birth.
And do yourself a favor and try coming up with an original idea of your own if you don't agree with something other than "besides reading right wing propaganda."
Honestly, try doing some reading. And I don't know what else to call it when you repeat right-wing propaganda that has no basis in fact. I'd say the same if you were pushing creationism -- it's simply made up. If you choose to believe it on faith, fine, but don't expect a good reception among people who value informed opinions and reasoned debate. Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
The school of fish political commentary simply shows you are uninformed and like I said have no original ideas of your own.
I just get upset when people resort to political labels of any kind. It is worth replacing "republican propaganda" with what you actually mean. Particularly since I have never been a member of the Republican Party now or in any prior lifetimes (to my knowledge).
frankly that's fairly insulting, I've attended abortions, I've spent several months studying the morals and ethics of abortion during my degree, and you're more informed on the grounds of one half baked anecdote? Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
Heh. Don't flatter yourself by thinking you've done any more than repeat stale talking points poorly. At most, you've mildly annoyed some, and greatly amused me, for which I'll give you credit.
What I'm glad about is you've revealed yourself and I'll know in the future to take your assertions with a grain of salt.
I think one major difference was 30 years ago women were not of equal status with men and today they are (and then some).
Now theres a telling Misogynistic phrase and a half. Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
