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"...coerced into buying pianos."

I wouldn't call your example coercion, unless one wants to stretch the term to include almost all social processes that shape human preferences and behavior. But if one did, what word would we use when someone says "Give me everything you own in exchange for this piano, or I'll blow your brains out and kick your dog"?

I'd like to reserve the word "coercion" for using force to force action. Persuasion and social pressure deserve a nicer name.

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by technopolitical on Mon Aug 27th, 2007 at 03:35:19 PM EST
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Just because nobody "put a gun to your head" (to use the favourite metaphor of American libertarians) doesn't mean there wasn't coercion.

Can the last politician to go out the revolving door please turn the lights off?
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 27th, 2007 at 03:58:52 PM EST
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Indeed. My question, though, is how far the term "coercion" can be stretched before meaning drains from it. Where was the coercion in the piano example?

I object to stretching the use of this term for the same reason that I object to the debasement of WMD. If (as was recently argued) nukes = nerve gas = burning phosphorous = (why not?) napalm -- all of them "weapons of mass destruction", haven't we eroded, at least somewhat, the moral line that sets nuclear war off limits?

Likewise, if discrimination = genocide (as I've heard from time to time), isn't the concept, and horror, of genocide cheapened?

Words and ideas I offer here may be used freely and without attribution.

by technopolitical on Tue Aug 28th, 2007 at 10:09:10 PM EST
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I was using the terms 'coercion' and 'propaganda' to indicate that what is needed is the right message pushed again and again, relentlessly. It is not a matter of getting the 'facts' to the public, but to repeatedly present the same talking points to be assimilated and absorbed through rote repetition, rather than as a process of 'rational' 'reasoning'. Thus, not appealing to what I would consider 'legitimate' methods of persuasion, but rather as an argument from authority, and of stupid repetition, I would consider it a form of coercion.

The 'coercion' in the piano example is the process whereby the ownership of a piano is established as a norm for those in a particular socio-economic segment. Much in the same way, 'correct' ideas and opinions on the extraction and stewardship of natural resources, the environment and economic activity need to be established as a norm of 'all right thinking individuals', as the 'markets are best' mantra is right now.

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 10:58:15 AM EST
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