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2 notes on favas:  picked as babies they are absolutely delicious, no need to peel the skins, just steam or sautee lightly, add a bit of butter and whatever herbs you fancy, and yummmm!  baby favas with pesto over cornbread, a real winner :-) but as they get bigger (more nutritional value for your gardening effort) they get tougher and mealier, the taste gets more boring, and the skins become obtrusively chewy.  then it's worth blanching and skinning them.  my next experiment will be to grind the frozen ones to powder and make my own bean chips.

they are the most prolific bean I have ever planted, hardy and willing and tremendously rewarding.  read recently that they were planted widely in Iron Age Britain!  and they generate a lot of biomass in the form of stem and leaf, as well.  a real wompom...

but you probably knew all that already :-)  sorry if I am preaching to the choir

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:02:43 PM EST
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More information pls. Couldn't find favas in wiki...

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:11:23 PM EST
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= broad beans, me duck.

Every bit as good as DeAnander says!

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:13:31 PM EST
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Nitrogen fixing - good. Cover crop - good. Overwintering - good. Taste - good.

Not common in Finland. Don't know why.

As a cook I love all pulses, but I always have to look up soaking and/or cooking times for the less common ones. After cooking for a few decades you get a feel for almost anything in terms of cooking times and methods - but pulses still often defy common wisdom. It depends on the recipe - overcooking is not necessarily bad if you are going to zap them for a soup or sauce. But to get that nice al dente crunch for some dishes you need to work from wiki or google ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:23:00 PM EST
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Oh yeah?  WikiP on Fava_beans

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:30:30 PM EST
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Put in 'Fava'. I never look past the first 20 entries :-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:43:10 PM EST
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My spring batch got chewed up by the assorted critters infesting this place. I'm sort of hoping the autumn batch will survive better: worst comes to worst they'll make good compost.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:23:10 PM EST
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What critters?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:25:19 PM EST
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By critters I mean earwigs and wood-lice, with help from the slugs ...

I don't know what the hell the previous occupants were doing here but it seemed to include a breeding programme for crustaceans.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:26:52 PM EST
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My guess is that they were big pesticide users  - the left over weedkillers indicate they were fully invested in the chemical gardening craze.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:29:31 PM EST
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You've probably hit upon a new gardening program format: 'Chernobyl Gardens - taking your garden back to Eden'.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:46:11 PM EST
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Earwigs are handy because (though they eat bits of leaf etc) they prey on blackfly, which are a real problem for young broad/fava bean shoots. Some organic gardeners make winter shelters to encourage them to stick around.

Slugs, hmm. Catch and destroy. Hours of fun.

The worst bean critter we had was a neighbouring rooster who we saw finishing off the last beans of two rows just when the beans were swollen and sprouting. A jab into the ground with his beak, up came a bean like a plum from a pie, gobble gobble, no more beans. Aarrgghh!

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:48:43 PM EST
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Yes, in theory earwigs are useful. However, when you nuke everything except them, woodlice and slugs they can run rampant and do real damage. It's like the slugs: when you kill all their predators they'll shred you. Just have to give the garden a chance to regain balance.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 29th, 2007 at 05:55:27 PM EST
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Excellent book on those issues (species imbalance and land stewardship):  Noah's Garden...  delightfully written and good food (or compost) for thought...

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 05:42:51 PM EST
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Planting ferns can help mop up toxic waste.
by Loefing on Fri Aug 31st, 2007 at 08:24:57 PM EST
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