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okay, that's what I thought but I still don't understand.  

anyway, there's been lots of interesting news lately.  I heard the Russians are thinking of moving their nuclear missiles back into Belarus.  

by zoe on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 01:31:31 PM EST
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I think there's a lot of smoke going on around nuclear deployments right now. I'd agree that Bush has got a lot of people worried, we all know he and Cheney really are mad enough...so there's a lot of pretending to rattle sabres that are probably not as battle worthy as they like to pretend they are.

Frankly, if the ex-soviet submarine fleet is anything to go by, I'm not sure the Russian nuclear missile fleet is in any fit state to move, let alone fly.

Still, they can say they're going to Belarus....

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 01:43:54 PM EST
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I've worked with a lot of engineers who loved Russian engineering, and I tend to agree.  Their mechanical engineering is excellent.  Their electrical engineering, not so good.

Their aeronautical designs are also very, very good.  A lot of aeronautical equations are named after Russians, and a lot of numerical analysis techniques as well.  

They may not have had the money to do maintenance, but their mechanical design is built to last, baby.  

The most brilliant engineers I have worked with are Russians and Germans.  And, a lot of Polish engineers I have worked with have stated the same thing, surprisingly.  

So, I wouldn't discount them yet.  

by zoe on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 01:50:18 PM EST
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what would you rather do:

  •  take a Soyuz rocket to the International Space Station

  •  take the Space Shuttle to the ISS
by zoe on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 02:34:00 PM EST
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Going there or coming back?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 03:12:40 PM EST
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both.  remember that O ring failure for Columbia?
by zoe on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 03:28:16 PM EST
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You mean Challenger?

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 04:12:54 PM EST
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right.  I have my exploding Space Shuttles mixed up.  
by zoe on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 04:18:39 PM EST
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I may have mentioned before that I used to know someone who was contracting on one of the iterations of the ISS.

I thought it would be fun to suggest that she'd like a ride on the Shuttle for a birthday present.

She said "Are you crazy? You'd never get me into that thing. I've seen the plans."

New Scientist had a feature about fifteen years ago quantifying the risk of the shuttle program and predicting that there would be 2-3 catastrophic failures.

No one paid any attention. But still.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 04:29:13 PM EST
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I worked on software on the ISS
by zoe on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 04:32:44 PM EST
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on the ISS or for the ISS? ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 05:30:51 PM EST
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Does it predict the ISS's position from zodiac signs? ;-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 05:56:26 PM EST
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Well as long as it uses a compatible zodiac

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 06:04:34 PM EST
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come now, how unscientific can you be?  the horoscopes we have are for earth-based creatures ;-)
by zoe on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 06:06:27 PM EST
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One of my favourite space quotes is this one

"It's a very sobering feeling to be up in space and realize that one's safety factor was determined by the lowest bidder on a government contract."

-- Alan Shepherd

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 at 05:35:57 PM EST
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