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Memories :). I did take Brest-Nice train (starting/stopping at Toulouse) a lot during my engineering school years.

Note that Buffalo is not really fast food (like Quick or McDonalds), more of a meat based restaurant chain (and they went famous for selling "mad cow" beef a while a ago...).

BTW Rennes has a fully automatic subway:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tro_de_Rennes

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 04:52:26 AM EST
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Yeah the Buffalo Grill was no McDonalds, but closer to KFC or Wendy's -- with only 10-minute waiting time. OK, they had a waiter, but the poor sod had to work faster than any waiter I saw before, always running. (Are there unions in BG?). However, the interieur, the food ("Assiette Téxane") and the country music were all suggestive of something very different from US stereotypes of French anti-Americanism...

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by DoDo on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 06:25:47 AM EST
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My half brother did work for Buffalo as waiter :). Waiter situation is the same in the whole french restaurant industry, unionization is very low (even by french standards), pay not great and lots of turnover (even if most contracts are permanent).

Job statistics here:

http://www.insee.fr/fr/ffc/fichesect/service_pairA.htm

Most french meat restaurant chains use USA and cowboy images for their marketing.

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 07:29:54 AM EST
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I gave the guy a proper tip.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 08:01:29 AM EST
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... are all the same in this corner of America, just a different menu and different decoration on the cardboard cut out building surrounded by parking and drive-through lanes.

From what I recall back when I could afford them (which was before I went to Oz, so more than a decade back), the first tier of sit down and get waited on with a turn-around as close to Mickey D's as possible is, like, Denny's, HoJo's, and IHOP.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 03:33:00 PM EST
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Cardboard cut out building surrounded by parking and drive-through lanes, that applied to my Buffalo Grill, too. I primarily meant the different menus: at least in Budapest, McD is all 'plastic' hamburgers + over-salted fries + stomach-blowing soft drinks (and maybe temporary specialities), Wendy's (which no longer exists here) also had more eatable stuff like baked whole potatoes and chili (like Buffalo Grill), and longer waiting times. I don't know either Denny's, HoJo's, or IHOP -- seems they didn't get here.

(I note my experience of US-origin fast food restaurants is from when I returned late from evening astronomy courses and nothing cheaper and non-smoker was open, and I gladly switched to Chinese and Turkish/Greek/Arab fast food restaurants once they arrived.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 06:27:04 PM EST
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... when I lived in Oz were an old-fashioned Australian hamburger joint, with six kinds of hamburger and a range of toppings, ranging up to bacon and egg, including of course grilled onion, and if you weren't careful beetroot ... and kebab places.

Wendy's always had the chili, but I guess they added some other healthier food choices after I left for Oz, in response to the pressure from Subway, and now Mickey D's trying to follow suit.

But I can't really afford to eat at most fast food places, so once I started boycotting Taco Bell because they would not serve me in the ride in window, the closest I get to fast food is canned soup or canned chili and frozen veggies added to the rice in the rice cooker.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 06:51:33 PM EST
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Interesting, McD & co is often spoken of as cheap by Westerners, which was and still is definitely not true here (I remember the first McDonalds opened was seen as a trendy exclusive place for those with money). So yes the switch to Chinese and gyros (döner kebab) in my student years was also welcome cost-cutting.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 07:00:17 PM EST
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The kebabs in Oz would end up being about the same as a Bog Mac, and the better Ozzie burgers a smidgen more ... but since both felt like actual food instead of imitation food, there's no comparing the bang for the buck.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 07:47:51 PM EST
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I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 07:48:16 PM EST
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Oh, and here too the best hamburgers are sold by street vendors (four times the size of what they sell in McD, tastier, healthier, more stuff put into it in greater variation), but I rarely came across these on my routes home.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 07:03:50 PM EST
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... was the meat pie stand in the converted tram near the Queen's Wharf (where the ferry to Stockton Peninsula came in) ... a bad meat pie is a terrible thing, but a very good one is an excellent reason for taking up cycle commuting.

From the description you give of the street vender hamburgers, the traditional Ozzie burger from a traditional fish and chip shop is closer to that than to Mickey D's ... or, as they say in Oz, Macca's.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Sep 15th, 2007 at 07:12:52 PM EST
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