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waBob, I really don't want to support her personal attacks, nor anybody else´s, but I am really disappointed at the one-sided, selective memory here.  I know, if I were in her shoes, I may react just as badly and still feel hurt.  Different humans, different times.

I have to assume that some of you have not read all the past comments, or you would let it be.  I´m not enjoying this, but I think it brings up issues for everyone that we need to consider, if we want to avoid it in the future.

It´s hard to say more without ´comparing people´ and I don´t want to go there because I may express something the wrong way and cause more misunderstandings.

I really like this cyberfamily! because we are good, not perfect.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Wed Sep 19th, 2007 at 02:23:52 PM EST
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some of you have not read all the past comments,

All of them, and more, and further back, than you think.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 19th, 2007 at 03:07:18 PM EST
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  1.  mmmm 1) was practicaly stalking Jerome (apparently carried some grudge from daily kos over here - then began attacking him for where he went to school or something unrelated to anything), 2) responded to anything less than sheer flattery (and sometimes even that) with unnecessarily mean personal attacks and 3) there is some evidence that she had previously posted under other names, and had been very trollish then.  You could not be expected to know that last bit, but the first 2 things were kinda hard to miss.  And all 3 things are irresponsible.

  2.  That said, I don't think it excuses how anyone treated her either.

  3.  And the astrology thing was taken way too far.

  4.  But back to you, you can be accepting of mmmm as a person or whatever and still not applaud her for her personal attacks.  Even if personal attacks are true, they are still disruptive and they violate blog etiquette (how is implying someone got their job through less than acceptable means not akin to say, outing?)  

  5.  And you may feel like this is a family; I am sure some do, but it is first and foremost a public forum for discussion of and commentary on policy, etc.  As such, there should be some standard of decorum here.  If that takes a back seat to "just wanting everyone to get along and accept each other so we agree to accept everyone's bad behavior" then our values and ability to critique have taken a hit.  Why don't we practice what we preach.  We preach kindness, but also accountability.  There's nothing wrong with holding someone accountable for making a personal attack.  Anyway...it's not a family in that we do not have to accept each other.  Trust me, as someone permanently on the receiving end of rejection here, no one is ever asked to show forgiveness here.  We have to be civil with each other.  Yes.  And fair.  Yes.  (see 2 & 3)   But mmmm was neither and did not even make a misunderstood effort to be so.  It's not the job of ET to create a family.  All we can do is try to act like adults.  Which means, in part, avoiding personal attacks and ratings abuse.


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Wed Sep 19th, 2007 at 03:12:20 PM EST
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