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You're making the assumption that Pakistan, or whoever, has nothing better to do than to refine and miniaturise nuclear weapons.

I'm not sure that is the case.

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by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 06:15:53 AM EST
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Is a mini-nuke as easy to build as depicted in The Fourth Protocol?

Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK? — The War Nerd
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 06:23:41 AM EST
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One would assume not, the design in the Fourth protocol is basically the same as that utilised in the Hiroshima bomb, and from what I have read to make that work took firing one half of the neuclear material at the other down a discarded 8" naval gun. If less force was used the two halves would blow themselves apart in the initial stages of the reaction causing the reaction to stop.

Later devices have relied on some form of explosive compression of a subcritical lump which is assumed to be a necessary technology to build miniaturised weapons.

However take this all with a grain of salt because I'm not a physicist with any real expertise in building these things, and much of the information in public literature is probably misleading.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 07:11:43 AM EST
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I thought the desinged involved shooting a cylinder into a sphere with the cylinder cut out, so that the two pieces can't really blow each other apart so easily.

But what do I know, I didn't even read the book, just saw Pierce Brosnan playing the Russian agent in the movie.

Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK? — The War Nerd

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 07:28:36 AM EST
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it's possible that if you dont fire the central lump in fast enough the initial reaction welds ths slug without it fully penetrating, preventing the full reaction from happening.  but as I said I may be talking out of another orifice.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 07:47:57 AM EST
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No, that's exactly the problem with gun type bombs. It makes the design suitable only to U, not Pu which is more fissile and usually polluted with poison isotopes which amplify the "fizzle" effect.

Pierre
by Pierre on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 09:57:33 AM EST
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By building, you mean actually designing, and making the parts at the factory, or just putting them together after they've been made ? The latter is easy, depending on where you "cut". The explosive polyhedron for a compression bomb is on a carefully adjusted lattice, you can't rebuild it like lego, but after all it's only 20cm or so in diameter. Of course, it's also the heaviest part with the Pu in the middle, but in all it's probably less than 50 kg. All the rest is power electronics, with circuit board full of capacitors and boost convertors. You can take it apart and rebuild it in any place reasonably clean. The wire length are carefully adjusted to carry the impulsions so that they all arrive at the same time at their target point on the sphere, but all that matters is that you don't mix them up when reconnecting. This is light stuff, except for the battery which will be very high power in a real bomb (you need very high energy accumulated in HV condos, a bit like for a giant flash light, because there is no intermediate fuse: in order to have a synchronous compression, the explosives are triggered directly with an electric arc). Of course, a stripped down bomb could replace the battery with a mains supply or a car alternator.

Pierre
by Pierre on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 09:40:56 AM EST
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Well almost anything they did would be better  for them than expending the resources on building miniaturised nuclear weapons,  However government by penis size still appears to be relevent to those in charge.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 06:48:08 AM EST
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If it's government by penis size surely miniaturisation is not what we could expect?

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 06:51:54 AM EST
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well it's like greek stsues, smaller is better

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 07:02:25 AM EST
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thats statues

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 at 07:02:45 AM EST
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