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I recall my father, a veteran of WWII, speaking of the horrible nature of war several times.  I never heard him describe the war as good.  My impression is that it was not something he enjoyed at all and that he certainly knew that soldiers and sailors on both sides were suffering horrible deaths/wounds. I do believe that he and most others who participated on the allied side thought the war was necessary, and I'm glad they do/did.  It's not pleasant to live with the alternative, I can assure you.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 10:43:52 PM EST
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WWII has been described as the last war worth fighting. There is some truth to that, either because we would fight it if we were living 70 years ago, or because the way people thought about themselves and their place in society changed significantly after the war.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:46:40 AM EST
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WWII has been described as the last war worth fighting.

So was WWI

by Loefing on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 08:17:29 AM EST
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I have to say, in hindsight, WWII (and its preludes and aftershocks) was probably worth fighting, but WWI was not.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 08:37:28 AM EST
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If you like.

But we're coming up on another major confrontation, here.

Do you not see a continuity between the present world context and the previous 2 world wars?

Clues: havoc in Central Banks, economic configuration, worker compensation, purchasing power, wage disparity.

The ingredients that comprised the basis of the previous world wars are all there/here. But instead of addressing these issues, head-on, the decision is to smash yet another defenseless nation.

Smash 'n bash.

Otherwise known as 'fuite en avant'

by Loefing on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 09:08:37 AM EST
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I constant refrain of mine is that now I know what living in the 1930's must have been like. 9/11 was like the Reichstag fire and Iraq is like any of the colonial wars by axis powers in the 1930's. Will Iran be Poland? There has certainly been no ultimatum like there was after the annexation of the Sudeten.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 11:19:29 AM EST
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if Russia and China don't want one. They are capable of squeezing the gonads of the west without loss of one life, and don't think they won't if they think an attack on Iran is dangerous to their interests.
China has the ability to send the U.S. economy ( and the rest of the west with it)into a tailspin by dumping U.S. bonds. Russia can find the need to do maintenance to its gas lines to western Europe in Dec. Jan. and Feb.
You don't think they'll play hardball? And there's no nuclear blackmail against them.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 11:58:45 AM EST
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~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Sep 28th, 2007 at 04:15:58 AM EST
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