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This is northern part of Kullu valley with Manali town. I always wondered why photography does not represent reality faithfully - When I was making picture snowy mountains at the distance were really big and grand, but camera diminish them, and enlarge nearby objects.
by FarEasterner on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 05:17:36 AM EST
Perhaps a panoramic crop of just the mountains would work. Increase the saturation to bring out the green of the trees and up the contrast a little.  It's hard to get distant features to show up well, especially where there is a little haziness in the air.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 06:42:07 AM EST
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It's also a lot bigger than the recommended size - as in your reminder here - seems to be 1000 wide and over 300k.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 09:02:47 AM EST
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Migeru and Someone are trying to work how how this can be prevented using the style templates.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 09:49:13 AM EST
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A physical view of reality is a mosaic that's constructed in the brain. Your eyes don't really see a near-180 panorama, but your brain is clever enough to create a map that represents the spaces around you in a way that corresponds accurately to physical experiences of distance.

A camera takes a literal snapshot through a relatively small window, and you just get the snapshot, not all of the assembly and processing around it that creates the experience of space.

The standard photo aspect ratios aren't wide enough to trick the brain into interpreting a view as a space. To get an impressive panorama you have to fake what the brain does by stitching together different shots into a wider view. If the panorama is wide enough you can trigger the space perception response.

You can also print large, which can have a similar effect. And use a very wide lens.

But a small photo won't usually do it. Which is why wide-field landscapes often feel disappointing compared to the real thing.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 07:47:02 AM EST
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But his disappointment with the apparent size of the mountains has more to do with this than the panoramic aspect:

SIZE CONSTANCY - A TENDENCY TO CHANGE VIEWING DISTANCES.

AN IMAGE DOUBLES IN SIZE WHENEVER ITS DISTANCE IS HALVED. The brain compensates for this.

A test - look at your hands, placed at arms length, draw one hand closer to you by bending your elbow - the hands continue to look the same size, even though the furthest away hand is half the linear size.
Now let the nearer hand overlap the other and you will see the difference in size - the hand nearest to you covers the other hand........ even though you know they haven't change size, just their position.
(This was first identified by DESCARTES)

http://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~kbroom/Lectures/3gs.htm

Which has a lot of interesting stuff about visual perception.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 09:34:46 AM EST
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Interesting link thank you but in my case it's more with imperfect camera lense and flat representation of three dimensional world than with visual perception.
I think wider lense may improve things but so far I have seen pictures taken with it they were also distorted. That mean that eye is much better instrument than we usually think.
by FarEasterner on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 12:25:17 PM EST
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No it DOES have to do with visual perception, as the quotation explains. Thus when you look at mountains your brain knows they are big and and scales them up, the camera records their visual size as it is from there - hence the disappointment. You certainly don't need a wide-angle, which would only make them seem smaller. A tele lens tends to compress perspective, things look closer together, so the mountains will loom over closer objects and look more like your brain's adjusted image of them.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 at 01:11:01 PM EST
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