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... what kinds of cars to build and buy and the Americans who decide that more than half the Federal budget should be on one form or another of "Defense" spending, year in, year out, decade in, decade out?

The latter seem to be able to pursue and achieve the next rationale for the care and feeding the military-industrial complex, on an ongoing and very long term basis.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Sep 30th, 2007 at 06:24:44 PM EST
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What you've described is theft, not efficient long term thinking; except for the thieves it's been very efficient.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2007 at 06:33:11 PM EST
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... to do with my argument. Effective would be more like it ... it takes effective long term planning to steal and keep stealing for in excess of half a century.

I don't think anyone can read what Jerome has excerpted and accuse the author and others of his ilk of an excess of sanity, but they are not wont of looking ahead, beyond the next crisis to the ongoing, forward looking effort to secure a reliable crisis supply.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sun Sep 30th, 2007 at 06:37:54 PM EST
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Well, I've had a night's sleep since my last comment. I see what you mean. The military industrial political complex has been very effective in its ability to steal our national treasure over the long term, but it has not built a military, efficient enough to defeat an insurgency in a small country like Iraq. What Mr. Corn has given us is a long term plan for continuing the theft; a plan that can only lead to eventual collapse as the U.S. strangles itself.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 at 01:32:30 AM EST
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But, upon further reflection, the   planning has existed  in this one area only, the theft of the national treasure. There has been no plan, at all, long term or short term regarding the well being of the nation or its people; "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and all that.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 at 01:46:55 AM EST
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... is antithetical to the well-being of your nation, you can either admit it to yourself, or find Orwellian ways to re-define the well-being of the nation. It seems to me that the Tony Corn's of this world are inheritors of the second path.

Their gain in peace of mind, of course, comes at a price in terms of the biases and blind spots created by the double-speak.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 at 05:48:39 PM EST
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Reminds me of Sven's image of a spider's brain growing bigger only to squeeze its own esophagus

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 at 07:17:19 AM EST
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Theft is what the US economy has been built upon for the last decade or two.

And the world will live as one
by Montereyan (robert at calitics dot com) on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 at 12:58:21 AM EST
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Certainly not entirely ... there is also the need by groups of nations pursuing mercantalist policies to have a nation that can run a deficit, to avoid a liquidity crunch in international money.

In the mercantalist age after 1500, that nation was Spain, with its mountains of silver. Recently, for China, Southeast Asia and others, that nation has been the US.

However, its looking increasingly like someone is going to have to come up with a new trick, because that particular trick seems to be wearing thin.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 at 05:52:57 PM EST
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On the function of the US and Japan as source and sink of global money over the past 15 years, see Chris Cook's diary Debt Requires Growth: or Vice Versa?.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 1st, 2007 at 05:57:07 PM EST
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