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A point I'm sure everyone has in mind, but that I'll stamp home with my great big oppressive management jackboots, is that all diaries here should be openly accessible to all members, lurkers, passers-by, newcomers. That's a fundamental principle of this type of collective blog, and it's secondarily important in helping attract new users to ET. There should be no question of photoblogging being a separate club within the community, reserved for those who have superior bandwidth/equipment.

We have to take into account a fairly wide range of bandwidths, running from dial-up to big broadband. (Don't forget also that people's Internet access may temporarily change when travelling.) Then we need to remember that, nice as it is to have visuals, the blog layout favours text. The central column can be pushed wide by an overwide pic. PeWi points out another constraint with work firewalls. That should rule out thumbnails. 600 px fits into a 1024x768 display, so that seems reasonable. (There is no difference, from this point of view, between the diary and the comments.)

This seems unfair to fine photos that deserve to be seen full-screen, but Scoop isn't the right content management system for that. Even the Web pic servers place limits.

You don't need Photoshop to reduce pics. Irfanview is freeware and efficient. I'm quite willing to give explanations on how to use it.
 

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2007 at 06:33:44 AM EST
I wasn't suggesting that we stamp down on the human face of non-geekery with our macho technocratic bandwidth demands so much as just plain asking if there's hard information about how many people are using dial-up, and whether or not they were finding the thread too much.

My guess is that most people aren't, and didn't, but I'm more than willing to be proved wrong about that.

But I'll be surprised if it's a serious problem, because all we're doing is copying what sites like Flickr and Picasa and Photobucket do already - and they don't seem to have acquired a reputation for exclusivity.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2007 at 08:01:34 AM EST
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I wasn't thinking of you, TBG.

If the thread loaded well for lower bandwidths, I expect it's because most people did in fact reduce the size of their JPEG files. There seemed to be a consensus about it - then some comments suggested it might not be worth bothering about, and the polloi could just use a collapsed thread. Which is what I reacted to.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2007 at 08:13:51 AM EST
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Sorry - forgot to say that hard information is probably not easy to get. A poll would only involve a small number of those who come by ET. (Not that I'm speaking against a poll: anyone is free to put up a diary and append a poll.)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2007 at 08:17:38 AM EST
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I agree with that. I considered doing a poll within this diary but all I could think of was "do you find graphics heavy threads difficult to download, yes or no?"!  

So I figured people can discuss in the comments whether they have any problems with graphics and that  will give a better gauge.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 7th, 2007 at 09:00:01 AM EST
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