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Last weekend, as dvx reported too, the Green base revolted against the leadership, and replaced a proposal supporting the continued deployment of Tornado jets and troops in Afghanistan with one demanding withdrawal.

For those speaking German, read this op-ed and weep:

Grünen-Parteitag: Abschied von Fischers Außenpolitik - Politik - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten

Abschied von Fischers Außenpolitik

Von Hubert Kleinert

Mangelnder Realismus, Großsprecherei, Antiamerikanismus: Das Afghanistan-Debakel der Grünen ist nicht nur eine Bauchlandung der "Regierungslinken", sondern schaltet die Partei auch als möglichen Bündnispartner jenseits von Rot-Grün aus. Die Blamage wird die Partei teuer zu stehen kommen.

Farewell to Fischer's foreign policy

Hubert Kleinert [Former Green representative for Hessen state, aide to Joschka Fischer]

Lacking realism, boastfulness, anti-Americanism: the Afghanistan debacle of the Greens is not only a belly landing of the "government Left", but also excludes the party as a potential coalition partner beyond Red-Green. The blamage will be expensive for the party.

No coalition with the CDU, what a tragedy. But Kleinert is right about the conservative reaction: the general secretary of the CDU's Bavarian  sister, the CSU, commented the event foaming at the mouth, declaring that the Greens "betrayed" Joschka Fischer!... He just can't think of a party not built as the feudal fiefdom of its leader (like his is).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Sep 18th, 2007 at 04:34:43 AM EST
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Yes, fancy expecting politicians to deliver on their promises and principles. Whatever next ? Democrats doing something effective about ending the Iraq war. Oh the humanity !!

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Sep 18th, 2007 at 08:06:22 AM EST
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By ceasing their support for a mission which is not accomplishing anything the greens are showing that they are not 'serious' party anymore.

Serious people always support war. It is a difficult choice to support war, which provides ample ground to ponder on one's seriousness in doing so.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Sep 18th, 2007 at 08:13:22 AM EST
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Serious people always support war.

As Gabor Steingart the born-again neocon says,

Irak-Abzug: Mein Berlin, ihr Bagdad - Politik - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten

Wenn John F. Kennedy während der Berlin-Krise auf Meinungsumfragen gehört hätte, wären die USA rasch abgezogen. Diese alte amerikanische Standfestigkeit wünscht sich Gabor Steingart auch im Irak - und er fordert: durchhalten, gemeinsam geduldig sein.Had John F. Kennedy listened to opinion polls during the Berlin crisis [Sowiet blockade of West Berlin], the USA would have withdrawn quickly. Gabor Steingart wishes to see this old American steadfastness in Iraq, too - and he demands: keep it up, be patient together.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Sep 18th, 2007 at 08:23:46 AM EST
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And to think that this was the generation that was going show the world how an egalitarian, antiauthoritarian party could work.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Sep 18th, 2007 at 09:04:44 AM EST
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