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Conventiently for the Grand Coalition, this debate is now also tearing apart the Greens. At the presently held party conference, the Realo-wing-dominated leadership brought in a motion for continued support of the Afghan mission, against loud protests. The base voted it down, and voted in an alternative motion for ending the mission instead.                                                                                            

I fear neither side truly comprehends the situation. The Realos, just like interventionist liberals elsewhere, see noble goals and ignore the issue of whether they are achievable with the means at disposal, and ther allies at hand. And I'm not sure that many on the opposed side really contemplate how much in a dire straits the country is, and will be even without Western meddling. (So in effect I think the base is naive yet demands the right move.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Sep 16th, 2007 at 06:29:25 AM EST
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There are Greens supporting the war?

That's inexplicable and surreal.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Sep 16th, 2007 at 09:38:50 AM EST
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This is the legacy of Joschka Fischer: the doctrine that you cannot be a "respectable" (i.e. "eligible for ministries in a coalition govt.) political party without buying into the Atlantic foreign policy consensus.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Sep 16th, 2007 at 10:23:29 AM EST
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Plus, the No more war No more Holocaust doctrine, which they seem to believe earnestly (though it started as a propaganda line during the Kosovo war).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Sep 16th, 2007 at 11:08:32 AM EST
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