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by autofran (autofran@mac.com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 12:09:03 AM EST
Germany and Serbia Hope for Swift Deal on EU Trade Pact | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 11.01.2008
The foreign ministers of Germany and Serbia said that they were hoping that the Balkan nation would soon be able to sign up to a key aid and trade pact with the European Union.

Serbian foreign minister Vuk Jeremic said that his country had already fulfilled the EU's conditions for the agreement, which is seen as the first formal step on the road to EU membership.

 

"We very much hope this is going to become the reality come January 28, and if not January 28 at the next earliest opportunity," said Jeremic on Thursday, Jan. 10.

 

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier also agreed that the meeting of EU foreign ministers in Brussels on that date was the ideal time for signing the Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA). 

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 03:44:27 AM EST
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Public broadcasters under the EU competition microscope - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The European Commission has public television and radio stations within its targets once again, this time with the launch of a public consultation on the future of state broadcasters.

The commission announced the consultation process on Thursday (10 January). It marks the start of a comprehensive review of the state of the sector since the adoption of its 2001 broadcasting communication.

The commission said in a statement that it hopes the review will build on the fundamental principles of the financing of public service broadcasting as laid down in European Community law, but also be able to clearly define what a public service mission is and limit state aid to "what is necessary for the fulfilment of this mission."

Competition commissioner Neelie Kroes said: "There are many ways the present broadcasting communication can usefully be improved to increase transparency and legal certainty."
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 03:45:23 AM EST
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Will this include an investigation into the Murdoch and Berlusconi empires?

[crickets, tumbleweed and TV static...]

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 07:57:48 AM EST
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No, no, it's just public broadcasters that are a problem.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 08:03:04 AM EST
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All that is necessary is to sell the public service broadcasters to Murdoch and Berlusconi. Then there will be no further problem.
by Gary J on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 06:25:53 PM EST
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Croatia risks delay in EU membership, MEP warns - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Croatia needs to speed up the pace of its reforms or it risks becoming a full EU member only after 2011, the MEP in charge of the dossier has warned.

In his last report, Austrian Socialist MEP Hannes Swoboda set 2009 as a target date for finalising EU negotiations with Zagreb and 2011 as the year when Croatia could become a full EU member.

But while "six months ago, this was very likely to happen," today, the probability of Croatia respecting this time-frame is only "20 to 30 percent", Mr Swoboda told EUobserver.

The country still has a chance of finalising its accession negotiations early next year. Then around one and a half years would be needed for ratification of the accession document by member states for it to join the bloc in 2011.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 03:47:21 AM EST
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77 professors at the University of Rome, La Sapienza, have signed a document protesting against the presence of Pope Benedict XVI at the inauguration of the academic year next Thursday. The protest is motivated by the Pope's obscurantist and reactionary positions concerning science and his continuous meddling in Italian society and politics. Student activists intend to rally against his presence.

Pope Benedict once declared that the trial against Galileo was reasonable and just, contradicting the later position of John Paul II who apologized for the trial. The present papal administration has undertaken a campaign against what it calls ideological science, such as "evolutionism". Science that does not have as its core axiom a curious concept known as True Reason is to be condemned as ideological and false. True Reason is apparently based on revelation of which the Church is the sole custodian. Science that denies Intelligent Design is false science.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:00:29 AM EST
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I have with me the latest issue of Europhysics news where the editorial (by the president of the European Physics Society, no less) gets it all wrong, apparently not being aware that 1) Ratzinger has backpedalled on Wojtila's positions 2) the creationism and intelligent design movements are "largely disconnected from organised religion".

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 05:45:01 AM EST
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For #2 I mean that he thinks they are diconnected.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 07:24:22 AM EST
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Ooh. A crypto-woo-woo!

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 09:13:14 AM EST
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Unfortunately, yes.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 12:05:32 PM EST
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Trashy Trade: Naples Makes a Dirty Deal with Germany - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Italy's trash problem isn't new -- which is why the country began exporting thousands of tons of garbage every day. Much of it ends up in Germany.

Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi has an awkward problem. In Naples, the trash is piling up -- and all of Europe is pressuring him to find a solution. The trash is no longer just blocking the streets of the southern Italian city, but it is also being exported to other countries on a massive scale, mainly to Germany.

PHOTO GALLERY: THE GARBAGE BATTLE OF NAPLES

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Prodi's frustration is palpable. He says he wants to end "once and for all" a situation that for the last 14 years has returned again and again. Above all he would like Italy to be completely "self-sufficient in terms of garbage disposal." In other words, Italy must find an internal solution to its trash problem -- without help from abroad.

But he has said that before. Almost a year ago, Prodi said there needed to be an end to the "trains of shame." The reference was to the trains that have been heading north to German incinerators for the last seven years -- each one made up of 22 cars loaded down with 500 to 600 tons of household waste.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:12:52 AM EST
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Well, they could try not being blatantly corrupt at every level of society, but that would ask too much.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:24:11 AM EST
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Talking about corruption, there's a reason those German incinerators have so much spare capacity.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 05:21:00 AM EST
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German City to Burn Naples Rubbish as Waste Problem Escalates | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 11.01.2008
The Naples garbage crisis has not only spilled into surrounding areas and other Italian cities, it has managed to make it into Germany. However, the garbage has been officially received, albeit grudgingly.

Germany has stepped in to help resolve the Naples rubbish crisis by accepting 30,000 tons of household waste from the Italian city. The port of Bremerhaven plans to dispose of the rubbish, just under a third of the total amount of waste which has piled up on the streets of Naples and its surrounding Campania region over the last two weeks.

However, a spokesperson for the city government made it clear that the burning of the rubbish in a local waste incinerator would not become a regular occurrence and that Bremerhaven was not entering the international disposal business. "It was a one-off case of emergency aid," the spokesperson said. "It will not be extended."

The 30,000 tons will be disposed of over the next six months. Bremerhaven has already dealt with 8,000 tons since local officials gave permission for the disposal action at the end of last year. The waste is transported by train from Italy to Germany.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 05:38:20 AM EST
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The reference was to the trains that have been heading north to German incinerators for the last seven years

Why can't German incinerators be set up in Naples, or at least in Italy, where the trash can be taken care of there?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 05:50:28 AM EST
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Incinerators would imply civic responsability such as seperating trash.

Incinerators also have to be built and functioning. Given that they have been heavily financed and approved at all levels for years, the fact that they haven't been built indicates that permanent emergency, like perpetual war, is very profitable for most everyone- Germany included.

As far as Neapolitan victimism goes, to hell with it.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 01:46:01 PM EST
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Serbia bans US and British election monitors - Independent Online Edition > Europe

Serbia's electoral commission has barred US and British observers from monitoring its presidential elections in protest over the countries' support for Kosovan independence.

A member of the commission from the ultra-nationalist Serbian Radical Party (SRS), Slavoljub Milenkovic, said yesterday that the US and Britain would be prevented from sending monitors for the 20 January elections "because their countries want to destroy us and grab Kosovo away from Serbia".

The US and most EU nations back independence for Kosovo, which is populated by some two million ethnic Albanians. It has been run by the UN since 1999, when a Nato bombing campaign forced Belgrade to end its crackdown on an armed insurgency of Kosovan Albanians.

After more than two years of internationally sponsored negotiations, Serbia, backed by Russia, still fiercely opposes the imminent independence of Kosovo and has refused any solution other than broad autonomy. Belgrade did not react yesterday to a report in The New York Times that claimed the US and Germany have agreed to recognise the independence of Kosovo, and will push the rest of the EU to follow suit after the outcome of the Serbian presidential elections, the second round of which is to be held on 3 February.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:16:25 AM EST
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Cloned animals are safe for consumption, European food agency says - International Herald Tribune

Meat and milk from cloned animals pose no special health risks, a draft report by the European Food Safety Agency issued on Friday concluded, a first step toward the eventual sale of such products within the European Union.

"It is very unlikely that any difference exists in terms of food safety between food products originating from clones and their progeny compared with those derived from conventionally bred animals," the report says.

The report acknowledged that cloned animals were prone to more diseases than conventionally bred animals, but said that humans would not suffer because unhealthy clones would be excluded from the food supply chain as is the case with conventionally bred animals.

The decision prompted an immediate outcry from environmental groups, who are already at odds with the agency over its conclusion that there is "no evidence" that genetically modified crops pose a health or environmental risk.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:19:34 AM EST
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From a production point of view, where is the advantage ? I would have thought that genetic variety was safer and less disease prone in the long term. Cloning needs  a better justification for the expense than this.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:26:05 AM EST
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Helen:
From a production point of view, where is the advantage ? I would have thought that genetic variety was safer and less disease prone in the long term.

The problem is that the more genetically homogeneous a population is, the greater the susceptibility to any pathogen that gets into it - the standard risk of monocultures. Also, a production-enhancing change in a genome can come at the expense of some feature that promotes hardiness. The production advantage is that producers hope the new, less hardy creatures will produce either more product, more valuable product (e.g. leaner meat) or the same product in a shorter time.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 05:25:37 AM EST
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Fran:
its conclusion that there is "no evidence" that genetically modified crops pose a health or environmental risk.

As we are all so fond of reminding each other: "Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence."

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 05:27:16 AM EST
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Europe struggles to avoid effects of a U.S. downturn - International Herald Tribune

FRANKFURT: Can Europe's economy stay on track even if the United States goes off the rails?

This old question is being asked with new urgency across the Continent, after a startling divergence this week in how the European Central Bank and the Federal Reserve are reading the economic tea leaves.

The answer, according to a growing number of economists, is that Europe is not as insulated from America's woes as many Europeans would like to believe. They question why, at such a fragile moment, the European Central Bank is warning that it might raise interest rates.

The Federal Reserve signaled it would cut rates further to try to ward off a recession.

"The ECB sees the glass as half full; the Fed sees it as half empty," said Thomas Mayer, the chief European economist at Deutsche Bank. "It's not a difference in the data; it's a difference in the analysis."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:20:42 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Europe | New words for old Spanish anthem
For more than 30 years, Spain's victorious athletes have had to resort to humming their national anthem.

The lyrics for the "Royal March" which were written in General Franco's era were dropped in 1975 because of their associations with his dictatorship.

But now the Spanish Olympic Committee has announced the results of a competition to find new words.

The anthem was to be revealed by the tenor, Placido Domingo, but the lyrics were leaked to a newspaper on Friday

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 04:26:31 AM EST
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Watch this from ElPais.com. The people's comments are hilarious, especially because people spontaneously spout the received wisdom from the left and from the right.

The anthem also says all the "right" things to try to make it palatable to the "peripheral nationalists". Expect this to be a major sticking point in the coming General Election as the PP reverts to its Franquista roots.

The video was shot at Madrid's Plaza Mayor.

¡Viva España!
Cantemos todos juntos con distinta voz
y un solo corazón
Hail Spain!
Let us all sing together with different voices
and a single heart
¡Viva España!
Desde los verdes valles al inmenso mar
Un himno de hermandad
Hail Spain!
From the green valleys to the immense sea
An anthem of brotherhood
Ama a la patria pues sabe abrazar
bajo su cielo azul pueblos en libertad
Love your fatherland for it can embrace
under its blue sky peoples in liberty
Gloria a los hijos que a la historia da
Justicia y Grandeza, Democracia y Paz
Glory to the children that it gives to History
Justice and Greatness, Democracy and Peace
3 chicas: Paz sí, vale, sí, pero lo demás, nada, fuera, no.3 girls: Peace yes, okay, yes, but the rest, nothing, out, no.
hombre jóven: Me parece un himno muy neutral, muy bien, o sea, que no se implica en nada y que todo el mundo puede cantar en Españayoung man: It seems like a very neutral anthem, very good, that is, it doesn't take sides on anything and eveyrone can sing it in Spain
mujer: Lo de 'viva España', como que no, eh? (risa nerviosa) yo soy republicana.mujer: That 'Hail Spain!', not quite, huh? (laughs nervously) I am a republican.
2 hombres: Pues... yo qué sé.
A mí me parece que está bien.
Está bien, está bien.
2 men: Well... What do I know.
I think it is good.
It's good, it's good.
Mujer mayor: Sí, me parece bien, sí, bonito, sí, bonito, la letra, sí.Older woman: Yes, it seems good, yes, pretty, yes, pretty, the lyrics, yes.
Otra mujer mayor: También, tambien, está muy bien, algo bonito que tendremos.Other older woman: [Me] also, also, it is very good, we'll have something pretty.
2 chicos: 'que ames a la patria pues sabe abrazar bajo su cielo azul pueblos en libertad' -  pero, sin embargo, las potencias occidentales causan guerras en África y todo eso, y eso desde luego no lo van a decir aquí, claro, pero... hay mucha hipocresía muchas veces en los gobiernos Europeos and...2 boys: 'to love the fatherland because it can embrace under its blue sky peoples in liberty' -  but, notwithstanding, the Western powers cause wars in Africa and all that, and that naturally is not going to be said here, clearly, but... there is a lot of hipocrisy in European Governments and...
hombre mayor: No me ha gustao. Vamos, el comentario que oía es que no, vamos, que tiene que estar más acorde con el sentir del pueblo español, que no tiene que hacerlo un señor solo. [al otro señor mayor] El nuevo himno que quieren, bueno, la nueva letra que quieren imponer al himno nacional.older man: I did not like it. Come on, the comment I heard was that, come on, it has to be more in tune with the feeling of the Spanish people, that it shouldn't be done by a single person. [to the other older man] The new national anthem that they want to, well, the new lyrics they want to impose on the national anthem.
otro hombre mayor: Ah, sí, que ya se ha hecho, y que lo va a cantar el mejor tenor que tenemos. Entonces, me gusta.other older man: Ah, yes, it's already done, and it's going to be sung by the best tenor we have. Therefore, I like it.
mujer: Gloria a la patria que supo seguir sobre el azul del mar el caminar del solwoman: Glory to the fatherland that could follow the trail of the sun over the sea of blue [This is Franco's anthem]
hombre Si es que tenemos un himno, yo no sé a qué viene esto de sacar un himno.man The thing is we have an anthem, I don't know what the point is of bringing one out.
mujer: José María Pemán es el señor que le puso la letra al himno nacional, que es ése que yo te he cantado, y que él fue jefe de la casa real, creo que fue.José María Pemán is the man that wrote the lyrics to the national anthem, which is the one I sung to you, and he was head of the King's house, I think he was [He was a monarchic in the 1930's but he was an enthusiastic supporter of Franco see wiki]
hombre: Breve, e intenso, con palabras llenas de fondo.young man: Brief, and intense, with words full of background.
mujer mayor: Que me parece mal.older woman: I think it's bad.


We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 05:34:31 AM EST
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BBC saying Treasury has recruited a chief executive for Northern Rock in case it's Nationalised. More soon.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 07:05:34 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Business | Treasury tips possible Rock boss
The Treasury has recruited the former boss of Lloyd's insurance market, Ron Sandler, to lead Northern Rock, should the troubled bank be nationalised.

A decision could be taken within days, says BBC business editor Robert Peston.

According to bankers close to the Rock, the Treasury has a fully developed plan to own and manage the bank, should a commercial solution be impossible.

Mr Sandler is widely regarded as having restored confidence in Lloyd's after its years in financial disarray.



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 07:08:46 AM EST
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About 5 months late, isn't it?

The Bank of England knew Northern Rock was technically insolvent some time in August. There should have been an intervention by the Central Bank back then, together with a deposit guarantee by the Treasury and a forensic accounting investigation by the FSA as banking regulator. 5 months ago.

Bah.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 07:21:32 AM EST
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I like that 'in case' it's nationalised.

Does anyone believe it won't be?

I wonder how much of the loan will be disappeared once it's handed over to the Treasury?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 08:00:40 AM EST
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I did consider Bolding it.

ThatBritGuy:

I wonder how much of the loan will be disappeared once it's handed over to the Treasury?

Can my mortgage dissappear in that case?

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 08:05:01 AM EST
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He's just said on Sky News, that they first contacted him about this in November.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 at 01:14:01 PM EST
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