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Pope Benedict has introduced a novel variation of the mass today. Following the Ecumenical Council of Paul VI the priest is to share in the liturgy with the faithful by facing them.

The mass today will be held in the Sistine Chapel with the traditional altar of the Pius V missal (the Tridentine Ritual), rather than the mobile altar introduced under John Paul II. The Pope with his back turned will therefore be positioned as an intermediary between God and the faithful.

After his personal opening to the Pius V mass in Latin, this hybrid appears to be a further step towards restoration. Is Benedict a closet Lefevrian?

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 05:30:44 AM EST
de Gondi, could you help me out here? I'm afraid I don't understand any of the implications.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 05:32:12 AM EST
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During the second part of the twentieth century, the RC Church moved towards an idea of the priestly function that was less hieratical, less magical, if you like. The old way - the priest celebrates mass facing the altar (the presence of god) with his back to the people - was that of the priest as an intermediary between the people and god. The new way was the priest facing the congregation as a pastor involved in a dialogue with the people, a human among other humans (almost).

Ratzinger (unsurprisingly) is getting rid of these sooo twentieth-century changes and going back to traditional practices.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 05:47:26 AM EST
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So, the church with the most voodoo decides that it needs to get a bit more. I guess a little more theatrics, smoke and mirrors impress the sort of people who believe in their church much more than their god.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 09:21:46 AM EST
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Now, that's a Protestant remark ;)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 09:48:56 AM EST
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Nope, that's an atheist remark.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 09:59:40 AM EST
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Great response. Nothing to add. Thanks.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 12:09:27 PM EST
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sorry, not sure how to embed this video.

But it's worth it for the run up to the last joke "I don't know what eternity is like, but I've seen Rush Hour 3 so I feel I've been there"

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 at 10:31:27 AM EST
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