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What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?

The first part of the sentence is already pretty clear : the Koran was put into writing 50 years after the death of Muhammad ; that is uncontroversial in most Islamic circles.

Not so clear, since the orthodox of version of the Qur'an generally accepted today was supposedly compiled by Zayd ibn Thabit and compiled by the 3rd caliph Uthman ibn Affan in about 650, i.e. only 18 years after Muhammad's death, and thus reasonably early enough to imagine that some supernatural being dictated divine proclamations to Muhammad who re-articulated them to his community whose oral tradition could have preserved the original words intact until they were standardized by Uthman.

However, the more important point is whether strong evidence can be put forth that makes clear to the majority of Muslims (that is, not just scholars and intellectuals) the fundamentally mundane origins of their holy text.

In fact, the "earliest Qur'an known to exist", the Sana'a manuscripts, discovered in Yemen in 1972, which were carbon-dated to 645-690 AD (according to that Wikipedia article quoting Carole Hillenbrand, The New Cambridge Medieval History, vol. 1, p.330), i.e. a couple of decades after Muhammed's death:

... some of these fragments revealed small but intriguing aberrations from the standard Koranic text [i.e. the one compiled by Uthman ibn Affan]. Such aberrations, though not surprising to textual historians, are troublingly at odds with the orthodox Muslim belief that the Koran as it has reached us today is quite simply the perfect, timeless, and unchanging Word of God.

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To date just two scholars have been granted extensive access to the Yemeni fragments: [Gerd-R.] Puin [a specialist in Arabic calligraphy and Koranic paleography based at Saarland University, in Saarbrücken, Germany] and his colleague H.-C. Graf von Bothmer, an Islamic-art historian also based at Saarland University. Puin and Von Bothmer have published only a few tantalizingly brief articles in scholarly publications on what they have discovered in the Yemeni fragments. They have been reluctant to publish partly because until recently they were more concerned with sorting and classifying the fragments than with systematically examining them, and partly because they felt that the Yemeni authorities, if they realized the possible implications of the discovery, might refuse them further access. Von Bothmer, however, in 1997 finished taking more than 35,000 microfilm pictures of the fragments, and has recently brought the pictures back to Germany. This means that soon Von Bothmer, Puin, and other scholars will finally have a chance to scrutinize the texts and to publish their findings freely--a prospect that thrills Puin. "So many Muslims have this belief that everything between the two covers of the Koran is just God's unaltered word," he says. "They like to quote the textual work that shows that the Bible has a history and did not fall straight out of the sky, but until now the Koran has been out of this discussion. The only way to break through this wall is to prove that the Koran has a history too. The Sana'a fragments will help us to do this."

What Is the Koran?", The Atlantic Monthly 1999 January

The Wall Street Journal article notes:

In the early 1980s, when the archive was still thought to be lost, two German scholars traveled to Yemen to examine and help restore a cache of ancient Quran manuscripts. They, too, took pictures. When they tried to get them out of Yemen, authorities seized them, says Gerd-Rüdiger Puin, one of the scholars. German diplomats finally persuaded Yemen to release most of the photos, he says.

Mr. Puin says the manuscripts suggested to him that the Quran "didn't just fall from heaven" but "has a history." When he said so publicly a decade ago, it stirred rage. "Please ensure that these scholars are not given further access to the documents," read one letter to the Yemen Times. "Allah, help us against our enemies."

With this huge corpus of text recently obtained from Sana'a and now the Pretzl/Spitaner archive being worked on by Angelika Neuwirth ("former pupil and protégée of the late Mr. Spitaler") It would be interesting to learn what Mohammed Arkoun would have to say regarding their impact on Muslims' view of the Qur'an:

Deviating from the orthodox interpretation of the Koran, says the Algerian Mohammed Arkoun, a professor emeritus of Islamic thought at the University of Paris, is "a very sensitive business" with major implications. "Millions and millions of people refer to the Koran daily to explain their actions and to justify their aspirations," Arkoun says. "This scale of reference is much larger than it has ever been before."

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Arkoun argued in Lectures du Coran (1982), for example, that "it is time [for Islam] to assume, along with all of the great cultural traditions, the modern risks of scientific knowledge," and suggested that "the problem of the divine authenticity of the Koran can serve to reactivate Islamic thought and engage it in the major debates of our age." Arkoun regrets the fact that most Muslims are unaware that a different conception of the Koran exists within their own historical tradition. What a re-examination of Islamic history offers Muslims, Arkoun and others argue, is an opportunity to challenge the Muslim orthodoxy from within, rather than having to rely on "hostile" outside sources. Arkoun, Abu Zaid, and others hope that this challenge might ultimately lead to nothing less than an Islamic renaissance.

What Is the Koran?", The Atlantic Monthly 1999 January



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:19:59 PM EST
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Can we first try to convince the majority of Christians that Jesus probably didn't exist ? That'd have a better hope of succeeding, and is less of a historical lapse - one thing with the Mohammed story is that beyond the Gabriel dictating stuff, the rest of the Koran story is quite believable, and it's not that impossible that  he actually told a pretty close version of the Koran to the one we have.

As for actually convincing Muslims to actually change what is for them one of their core beliefs, it's going to be hard. After all, it is pretty well known that the non vowelled Koran has semantic ambiguities, which have historically been debated ; which doesn't prevent many muslims from thinking the Koran is unchanged.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:07:17 PM EST
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Can we first try to convince the majority of Christians that Jesus probably didn't exist ?

Well, then we would have to convince all those Christians and all those Muslims.

That'd have a better hope of succeeding, and is less of a historical lapse

I doubt it:

Most scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus was a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, was accused of sedition against the Roman Empire, and on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion.[1] However, a very small minority[2][3] argue that Jesus never existed as a historical figure, but was a purely symbolic or mythical figure syncretized from various non-Abrahamic deities and heroes.[4]

Historicity of Jesus (Wikipedia)

Typologie des quêtes

On peut pour simplifier classer les travaux historiques sur Jésus en différentes catégories. <...>

La thèse historico-critique

Le Jésus dépeint dans les Évangiles ressemble d'assez près au Jésus ayant existé au Ier  siècle, mais des détails plus ou moins nombreux ont été imaginés par les évangélistes (naissance virginale, certaines paroles et miracles, etc.). C'est l'attitude très largement prédominante aujourd'hui chez les historiens et les exégètes, qu'ils soient laïcs ou religieux. Elle est préconisée dans l'enseignement laïc des religions

Quêtes du Jésus historique (Wikipedia)

Pour les chercheurs et spécialistes, les thèse mythistes sont rejetées par des arguments tant externes qu'internes au nouveau testament. Un premier point est qu'aucun des premiers adversaires des chrétiens, tant côté romain que côté juif, ne remet en question l'existence de Jésus, et ce malgré des attaques virulentes. En ce qui concerne les évangiles, le fait que leur rédaction finale au tournant du premier et du second siècle s'est faite dans une période où les chrétiens cherchaient à la fois se distinguer des juifs, et à s'intégrer dans le monde romain, rend peu crédible l'invention totale de la crucifixion de Jésus, supplice romain par excellence, et la mention de roi des juifs. Enfin les incohérences et contradictions mêmes des textes, sont en fait en défaveur d'une création fictionelle.

Thèse mythiste (Jésus non historique) (Wikipedia)

I think there is a (slightly) better chance of convincing the majority of Christians that Jesus was not God: it is a matter popularizing portrayals of Jesus as a mere mortal in books, movies, etc., an enterprise that has just barely started and is fraught with difficulty.  But that will take time.  And of course, it amounts to convincing Christians to abandon their faith.  Still, it may be possible, if that is what you want to do, and no doubt easier than popularizing portrayals of Mohammed as someone who was the author of the Qur'an without divine intercession.

As for actually convincing Muslims to actually change what is for them one of their core beliefs, it's going to be hard.

Indeed.  And actually I doubt either Sana'a texts or the Pretzl/Spitaler archive will produce anything that earthshaking.  The fact that the orthodox version of the Qur'an was standardized less than a generation after Mohammed's death suggests that any discrepancies will be clerical rather than ideological.

But you never know: maybe حورية‎ (ḥūr) turns out to mean "white grape" after all.

That Wikipedia article incidentally describes how the work on the Sana'a and Pretzl/Spitaler texts will be valuable:

In 2004 the German Wissenschaftskolleg (Institute for Advanced Study) in Berlin held an academic conference focusing on [Christophe] Luxenberg's thesis [that the content of critical sections of the Qu'ran has been broadly misread by succeeding generations of readers through a faulty and exclusive reliance on the assumption that classical Arabic formed the foundation of the Qu'ran whereas linguistic analysis of the text suggests that the prevalent Syro-Aramic language up to the 7th century formed a stronger etymological basis for its meaning] and an international working group was formed to continue the discussion. Many of the conference discussions were critical of Luxenberg. However, a number of academics have stated that Luxenberg's work is valuable in that it has focused attention on various deficiencies in contemporary Quranic studies.

One is the lack of a critical edition of the Qur'an, referencing the manuscripts that still exist and studying the evolution of the received text as it is known today.

Another is the lack of an etymological dictionary of the Semitic languages that meets the strictest contemporary standards. This would surely contribute to discussions of borrowings from Syriac, Latin and Middle Persian into Arabic.

A 2005 conference at the University of Notre Dame (Towards a New Reading of the Qur'ān?) clearly indicated increasing acceptance of Luxenberg's approach.

The Syro-Aramaic Reading Of The Koran



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2008 at 12:37:16 AM EST
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