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Notice that in Spain there is no TGV following teh coast from barcelona to valencia.. there a 200 km/h train will be all...

At the level of plans, that should improve: a full high-speed line from Valencia to Castellón shall be part of the Levante network, and the two major bypasses further North (Benicassim-Oropresa, and the AFAIK still not in service Vandellos 1+2+the entry to Tarragona) could be up-rated for 250 or 300 km/h after re-gauging. But with delays, delays, maybe in 2020...

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by DoDo on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 10:40:13 AM EST
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Yeah upgrades hsould took it to 250 km/h int he slowest part.. but as you say.. theya re still far away..

Ina n case a network of 200km/h trains in network is highly probable int he next 15 years... enough to dispalce the car if necessary.

Plans for lines for long and heavy "mercaderias"... never heard of that.. only today after 10 years they opened a train line to bring the cars foromt he Seat factory in barceloan to the docks int he port.. (less than 50 km).. until now hundreds of truckes delievered the cars to the ports... so if this basic line took so mcuh being so profitable adn necessary.. imagient he rest.

It is really ashaming.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 01:21:12 PM EST
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By the way, let me test your track knowledge as a trainrider! Where in Barcelona was that photo of an S-120 shot? (local.google.com link?) ;-)

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 02:24:37 PM EST
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Of course it was in the Southern side of the city. the landscape it is pretty clear the same...

I would say that it is not Barceloan city, it is already outside.. probably Bellvitge... though a full AVE can not take that far...maybe it is an S!"0 for Altaria travels, it can certainly be El Prat del Llobregat getting close to Bellvitge.

That would be my bet :)

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by kcurie on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 03:09:20 PM EST
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Close, but not quite! Hint: the photo was actually made at the border of Barcelona.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 03:19:19 PM EST
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So it was Bellvitge-Hospitalet-Barcelona corner... great... a lit bit closer to barcelona than expected :)

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 03:27:33 PM EST
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It's the middle of this map.

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by DoDo on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 04:16:20 PM EST
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Precisely.. what I called the corner exactly...it is the only place where Hospitalet, Bellvitge and barcelona meet.... Plaza Europa is the biggest square close to it which is urbanized... it is very close to the exit of barcelona (Gran Via South) closest to my house inside Barcelona.. but the shouthern part is strictly speaking Barcelona..the Zona france...

Well.. I just got the point exactly...it was this or either a little to the south when it is clsoer to El Parat del Llobreagat.. it little bit to the south in your map.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sat Jan 19th, 2008 at 04:39:31 PM EST
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