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State elections in Germany: can the left come back? | 78 comments (78 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Random thoughts (4.00 / 3)

Some additions/corrections to the picture:

The Nazis did NOT dissolve the states. In fact, they even created the larger part of one modern state: they unified Mecklenburg. It was only that the Nazis took power everywhere, thus the states became symbolic units in a centralised dictatorship.
Indeed Prussia included six modern states almost completely (Berlin, Brandenburg, Saxony-Anhalt, Lower Saxony, Schleswig-Holstein, North Rhine-Westphalia), but also major parts of others.
The break-up of Prussia was pursued by the British occupiers. The resulting states didn't much follow pre-Prussian lines -- in particular, Lower Saxony includes former strong local units Oldenburg and Hannover.
Saarland was long coveted by France, and was a special region for years after both WWI and WWII.
Rhineland-Palatine was created from lands held by Prussia and Bavaria.
Baden-Württenberg (in the Southeast) was born from the union of three states only in 1952, which had a long separate history before the war.

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by DoDo on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 at 12:48:59 PM EST
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Re: Random thoughts (4.00 / 3)

Indeed. I'd go further and state that the only modern states that really have deep historical roots are Bavaria, Bremen and Hamburg. Local state identity is probably felt strongest in Bavaria. Except in the northern part (Franconia, Francs identify with that). From my impression.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 at 01:18:43 PM EST
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Re: Random thoughts (none / 1)

About the Franks, yeah I heard that too. But don't you range Saxon local identity as still strong, too?

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by DoDo on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 at 01:33:54 PM EST
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Re: Random thoughts (4.00 / 2)

I don't get a lot of that, personally. Saxony is mixed up...

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 at 02:02:32 PM EST
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Re: Random thoughts (4.00 / 2)

Thanks for the clarification.

I think I was thinking of the Nazi Party structure (gauleiters), more than the formal state institutions, but I do recall that Goering was the Prime Minister of Prussia (amongst other jobs) at one time.

by Gary J on Mon Jan 28th, 2008 at 10:43:27 AM EST
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