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What a dismal collapse into celebrity and "HISTORY".  I don't know when I've been so disgusted, at least when Bush won it was with Republican support-here we have a moderately progressive candidate, one that at least has his eyes open to the general issues, and we go flying off like a crow to a shiny object.

I apologize for my country, and I advise you (for what my advice is worth) to really bring pressure to bear on your leaders cause they are going to get some serious arm-twisting now that the corporatists have no losing hand possible in the US.  Once in 30 yrs we had the conditions and the candidate that would have made real change possible and we threw it away for an empty suit and another Clinton-and that is IF they can beat the republicans when they get the smear machine ramped up good and proper.

Enough of this I'm off to some European topic-Train blogging, one of my favorites.

Hello everybody, hope you are all well, I've been throwing time and money into the primary rathole over here, but I think I'm awake now.

"I said, 'Wait a minute, Chester, You know I'm a peaceful man...'" Robbie Robertson

by NearlyNormal on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 12:27:19 AM EST
I am not dismayed at all. This is a much later collapse into celebrity than would have happened even in 2004 ... in 2004, he would have had to pull out now because of no money. As it was, he had the money to go to the convention, and pulled out for strategic political reasons.


Utsukushikereba sore de ii
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 12:52:41 PM EST
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--would stop doing things for strategic political reasons, and start doing what needs to be done!  If everyone who actually preferred Edwards, but voted for Obama for "strategic political reasons" (i.e. to stop Mrs.Clinton), had simply voted straightforwardly for Edwards, he'd have been the nominee.  At the very least, he'd have been so competitive that he'd have had no reason to drop out for strategic political reasons.  

And then I could have voted for him myself, in California's primary next week.  How I long to vote for a Democrat I actually like--for anyone I actually want to vote for--in a California primary!  But it doesn't seem to be possible, for "strategic political reasons," for this to happen, no matter how early they schedule the California primary.  And thus I am always, effectively, disenfranchised.

by keikekaze on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 07:25:09 PM EST
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You still can ... if some voters start the practice of only voting "for" in primary elections, then that reshapes the electoral terrain. If you find nothing to vote "for" with either candidate, vote for Edwards. There's nothing wrong with sending a signal ... the Mess Media won't understand it, but political pros will know that its the tip of an iceberg result.

And only the voters can change that ... the candidates can only work with the electoral terrain that we offer them.


Utsukushikereba sore de ii

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 08:18:28 PM EST
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Welcome to ET, keikekase!

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 08:37:15 PM EST
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Bruce McF--I like "Mess Media."  I hadn't heard that one before!
by keikekaze on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 09:36:33 PM EST
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... when the media establishment loses its "Mass" ... that's all that's left.


Utsukushikereba sore de ii
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 at 10:46:51 PM EST
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between people intending to run the government and power.
Its purpose is convince voters to pick a candidate for "strategic political reasons".
Such an electoral process works ... against common people.
by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 12:07:56 AM EST
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How I long to vote for a Democrat I actually like--for anyone I actually want to vote for--in a California primary!

Sadly true- my feelings also- and a perfect illustration of how broken the candidate selection and nominating process really is.

Equally sadly, the process of selecting a candidate lineup in Europe --at least in France- seems equally broken. Look who hands his hands on the wheel.


"There is mysterious music in democracy, when people decide to believe in themselves." ---Bill Greider, The Nation.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 at 03:23:49 AM EST
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