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Favour me with a piece of insight here, please. How is The God Delusion a more provocative title than Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Liar?

For someone whose declared goal (in so many - although slightly different - words) is to shift the Overton window, Dawkins has been unusually mellow and academic-sounding in all the cases I'm familiar with (which admittedly isn't all that many, though). Yet judging by the things people write about him here and elsewhere, you'd expect him to have enough fire and brimstone to set up a Hell of his own.

I'm not going to compare him to the rabid attack dogs of the Rightwing Noise Machine, but FFS, Al Franken and Steve Colbert regularly outdoes him on the venom and vitriol front. Yet those are rarely if ever attacked in Left Blogistan. And let's not even mention Michael Moore, who makes all three of them look like paragons of Aristotelian inquiry by comparison. (FWIW, I found Fahrenheit 9/11 obnoxious, but I rather liked Dude, Where's my Country.)

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jan 9th, 2008 at 11:24:35 PM EST
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You are correct in saying that Dawkins is less proactive than a large number of others in terms of his speaking style and writing style (he read from his book in the first youtube). The subject area is, on the other hand an area where small provocation will produce much greater responses. Not all topics are created equal.

Of course Al Franklin is not trying to engage in any sort of meaningful dialog with Republicans as far as I can tell. Is Dawkins trying for some sort of dialog? If so, then we had better use a different standard.

aspiring to genteel poverty

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Wed Jan 9th, 2008 at 11:50:58 PM EST
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One might argue that the reason that the subjects he comments on are subject to an unnecessary and harmful cultural taboo. I am reminded of what Jerome wrote a while ago - that whenever he presents his views to his colleagues, he is told to be less ideological (whereas presumably a neoliberal presenting his case with the same vigour would not be considered an ideologue). I would argue that it is not so much all subjects not being created equal as a case of not all Overton windows being in the same place.

Precisely what Dawkins considers his mission to be, I do not know. I don't follow him that closely, because frankly there are authors that I consider more worth my time. He has stated, however, (or it's been attributed to him - I can't off-hand recall which) that he desires to strip away the unearned respect accorded religion simply because it is religion. Given this goal - which by the way I consider laudable - his tactics make a lot of sense. Given most of the other goals he has stated and/or been attributed... well, not so much. But then again, you can't do everything at once.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Jan 10th, 2008 at 12:32:18 AM EST
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