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I have seen about ten minutes of The Death of Mr. Lazarescu. The problem was, it hit too close home: the type characters were too familiar from real life. (I felt the same with only one other film before, when I was literally shouting in anger at one character.) Which means it is probably a very good film -- for outsiders.

modern Bucharest smacks of post-Communist Eastern Europe ethos.  Same dank concrete apartment buildings.  Same drinking issues.  Same neighbors who hate your cats and worry you're not eating right

Ho-hum, I think old ladies not worrying whether you are eating right is unique to the US, and the opposite universal...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 02:43:03 PM EST
the type characters were too familiar from real life

They were also familiar to me.  Most of the film was in an eerie way.  I'm not sure if that's more of a reflection of my own experiences or the talent of the filmmaker.  Apparently, the actors were professional actors, but chosen like people off the street, and told not to act, but to be themselves.      

Ho-hum, I think old ladies not worrying whether you are eating right is unique to the US,

It's possible.  Well, in America, old ladies who actually know you worry about these things.  But the persistent advice, even meddling, of random people - we don't really have that.  With the exception of the stereotypical Jewish mother.  Maybe that's why I associate that behavior with Eastern Europe.  I've only experienced it with Jews in America and in Russia.  I mean, there is a difference between concern, and just not taking no for an answer!

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:04:29 PM EST
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I think it has to do with the lasting impression of surviving dire times, when not eating enough could literally lead to death. In the US, the last time was the Great Depression. In most of Europe, WWII and its aftermath (which took longer in the East Bloc -- my mother's family often re-tells the story of how six of them shared a single small package of tea butter for dinner sometime in the early fifties). In Africa, the dates are even closer to the present.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 at 04:40:15 PM EST
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Addition.

At the end of the eighties, within the Eastern Bloc, Romania was particularly in bad shape economically. To my knowledge (but I shall be corrected if this is bad info), this had to do with something Ceauşescu did differently from his colleagues.

From the seventies, the Eastern Bloc states minus the USSR began to take Western credit, and spend it -- building up a growing debt. (I have read recently te claim that this was conscious policy by the West after they saw that revolutionary propaganda doesn't work after 1956 and 1968, but I wasn't convinced.) Ceauşescu, who followed a separate line since refusing to join the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia, however decided one day that enough is enough: Romania shall pay back all its debt! Which came to be, cash-starving the already poor economy, bringing similar hardship as what followed only after the arrival of capitalism elsewhere.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 at 03:24:06 PM EST
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Yes I remember Romania under Ceauşescu in eighties...I used to go to visit some distant relatives. It was a horror. People literally starved...Their children were smaller cause they did not it meat for years...literaly.
I never before saw that poor country...I couldn't believe it is in Europe. They suffered greatly and I was not surprised when they killed that bastard and his crazy wife. It's impossible what people are able to endure...
And in those situations the most painful feeling is powerlessness and hopelessness
by vbo on Sat Oct 4th, 2008 at 11:15:16 AM EST
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I forgot to mention that prior that idiotic idea of that lunatic to export everything he could ( and mostly food and probably some oil) Romania was not short of food at all...on the contrary...
by vbo on Sat Oct 4th, 2008 at 11:19:29 AM EST
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They suffered greatly and I was not surprised when they killed that bastard and his crazy wife.

The way I know it, the execution was not the work of those who suffered, but orchestrated in secret by a circle in the Party/Army elite that long planned a coup and only used the unrest for their own benefit (Iliescu's rule being the end result), but I should read up on the state of research on this myself.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 4th, 2008 at 04:35:38 PM EST
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You are right! It always is the case. Ordinary people are not capable of doing such a drastic thing no matter how they suffer. But they did not complain or even felt sorry for them.
by vbo on Sun Oct 5th, 2008 at 12:43:20 AM EST
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Well like Stalin, Ceauşescu has his incorrigible fans, too. According to the latest poll I could find, 23% think he is the greatest Romanian politician of the last century (while 24% think he was the one doing the most damage over the same period).

One definite effect of the execution, and the fast publication of the videotape, was that the troops fighting for him gave up.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Oct 5th, 2008 at 03:13:04 AM EST
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Well like Stalin, Ceauşescu has his incorrigible fans, too. According to the latest poll I could find, 23% think he is the greatest Romanian politician of the last century (while 24% think he was the one doing the most damage over the same period).

Well what can I say...you are right again.Even if it's hard to believe but every single idiot that ever came to power had his fans.People are really...
by vbo on Sun Oct 5th, 2008 at 08:01:07 AM EST
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