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Germany and France lead €1 trillion European bailout - Times Online

Germany and France put mountains of cash on the table today as they led continental Europe in an offensive to rebuild trust in banks with state guarantees worth over €1trillion (£780 million).

Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Sarkozy, chiefs of the two big euro-zone economies, also joined Gordon Brown in calling for a deep reform of the global financial system after the dust settles from the autumn earthquake.

"When calm returns, those who have sinned will be punished," Mr Sarkozy said.

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 02:42:09 PM EST
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what else could have been done with 1 trillion euros of public money - not just for the financial sector, but in the real world?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 05:10:00 AM EST
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<heart crunch> like hunger, clean water, health care... <brain shut down>

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 06:05:40 AM EST
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Well, I share your sorrow, but I think the comparison is a bit unfair. It won't come to a trillion euros net cost.

What is enormously annoying is that the financial sector could be such a runaway parasite on the way up, and even complete nationalisation won't be punishment for that. Bonuses have been paid. Retroactive punitive taxation would be the only way to get back what was looted.

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 07:31:50 AM EST
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While this is not a cost but an investment, there are many other things which are not costs but investments either, which would do very well with a trillion euros.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 11:25:50 AM EST
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Oh, I fully agree about the investment part.
But a lot of that is apparently a guarantee that is paid for. And I don't think that counting the nominal is fair in that case.

When talking about investing in equity, then yes it is absolutely fair, and indeed a lot could have been done with the same amount of money, and should have been done.

Having said that, in the situation we are in now, I do believe we must prevent a total and uncontrolled financial collapse.

I do hope, though, that the precedent will be used in order to achieve other kinds of state investments. We will need them to kickstart main street.
I am very worried, on the other hand, about the impact on critical goals like fighting poverty and preserving the environment.

"The womb that spawned that thing is fertile yet"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 03:33:15 AM EST
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Well... you can't do anything with a trillion euros if your system of payments has broken down.

But alright...  You could double the size of the global nuclear power output. :)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 11:24:04 AM EST
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