(I have nothing to say yet. Damn.) Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
And today (I'd hope) most EUropeans don't like executions, either. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Death ... a natural part of the whole process, more than ready to go myself, and very realistic when I view the future needs of the species. If everything was hunky-dorry, hell, I wouldn't be spending my time posting pieces here. Now where's the fun in that! - Megatron
However, in revolutionary times, and lets be honest, if the elites screw carry on stealing our livelihoods, if they think they can organise just one more little scam and then they can be out of here, leaving us up shit creek, then there will be a wave of anger like nothing we have experienced.
The deal was, at least in Europe, in return for allowing them a slightly unfair slice of the pie, that we could continue in prosperity, having a home, health care, a car, an education, a job and a pension. Of course, lately we've been noticing that some of these promises have been getting a little thin, some seem to operate in the breach.
But for them, our developing discomforts have not been enough. They wanted more of the pie and now, in their greed, they have dropped it and made a mess of everything. And we are angry, afraid and we are watching them. If they attempt one more level of impovisishment on us, if they revel a little too mcuh in their gains, bad things could happen.
If there are food shortages, if people start losing their homes in the tens of thousands (difficult to hide on a crowded continent), all hell could break loose. Would I condemn the tumbrils in such circumstances ? Rough justice is sometimes better than none when the scales move too far. keep to the Fen Causeway
I noticed yesterday that some international trade is stalling due to a disbelief in the credit notes being offered. You don't have to have much imagination to see what will happen if wheat harvests aren't distributed and the canadian harvest has been an early casualty.
Oil may have fallen in price, but the US demand hasn't let up and the dollar is falling steadily. Even $90/bl is too steep for many in a developing recession. In europe, things will happen more slwly cos the governments tend towards interventionist, but I'm not sure they will cope with the cascade of issues that are developing.
Because it's not just the economic crisis. It's not just globalisation. In two years as we come out of the El Nina and solar minimum we are back to global warming with a vengeance and greenland is in trouble now.
Much of southern europe has water issues, as does the US SW. London and the South East, where half of the UK population lives, is one bad summer away from deep undo-able shit cos the aquifers have no resilience left.
And if food starts going, then yea. REvolution. Not now, not this year or next probably. But if you keep shocking people with the extent of the elites inability to keep to the deal (see above) through incompetence and greed, then all bets are off. keep to the Fen Causeway
I agree that it will tend towards a form of authoritarian fascism in some areas, US & UK most likely. E Europe quite likely.
But as I don't believe in the possibility of egalitarian Revolution, authoitarianism is the only one on the table. You get egalitarianism through democratic evolution, but we kinda blew that 50 years back when we got smug and decided to ossify our politics in search of monsters under the bed. keep to the Fen Causeway
I never made a value judgement on the end result, I just said that either the elites would moderate their greed or there will, within a few years, be outbreaks of civil disorder that may become difficult to control.
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This sounds like a judgment to me:
Would I condemn the tumbrils in such circumstances ? Rough justice is sometimes better than none when the scales move too far.
First you deny what you clearly said, then you refuse to acknowledge it when it's pointed out. Maybe you should have taken the opportunity to "finely tune and hone" your text :-) Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
Trolling is a matter of what you do, not who you are. And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
perhaps you should ask the same of him. And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
Because I don't like the Twank has a habit of shutting down conversation and generally being needlessly provocative, it simply isn't constructive.
We've had a level of discourse at ET that has avoided the pissing matches that come when you have agent prevocateurs and egoists thrown into the mix.
I hate filler, and I generally don't write unless I have something to say. Hence, why sometimes I disappear for extended stretches.
That, I think, has been true of most here.
As a consequence, the signal to noise ratio has been high.
I fear that may change. Hence, I am frustrated. And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
Don't put ridiculous and detestable words in my mouth.
