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No New Economic Proposal Expected From McCain - NYTimes.com
"At this point I don't think McCain can say anything on the economy that will sound credible," said Bruce Bartlett, a former economic adviser to President Ronald Reagan and President George Bush.

So what's new?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:55:30 AM EST
Bartlett jumped ship on the Reps several months ago to endorse Obama on a blog or in an op/ed or something, so I'm not terribly surprised by that comment.

The ABC/WaPo poll had some big warning signs for McCain.  About 70% of voters say Obama's addressing the issues rather than attacking McCain.  Only 35% say that about McCain, while 59% say he's attacking rather than talking about issues.

Consequently, McCain was down 10 points in their poll (O53-43M).  The fact that Obama's consistently getting into the 50s, and gradually getting to higher and higher figures, tells us quite a bit.  Prior to a week or two ago, he'd never cleared 51%.  Now he's hitting that routinely and reaching up to 53% in a few polls.

What's McCain going to say on the economy?  He's blown his own face off with that issue, and he's getting beat by 20-30 points on it.  Losing by 30 on health care.  Losing by 30 on the question, "Who understands you problems/the problems of people like you?"

And it's October 13th.  Voters, according to all the strategists, are digging their heels in.  I don't see how McCain can turn it around on his economy numbers.  He has to either figure out a way to distract people or hope that somehow national security becomes the sole focus of the campaign.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:27:54 AM EST
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Can national insecurity save McCain at this stage?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:33:30 AM EST
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A terrorist attack might save McCain.  Beyond that, I just don't see it, honestly.

He's getting slaughtered -- literally by double digits -- in every Kerry state.  One good example: He's losing Michigan by 16 in the last Rasmussen poll (a poll that tends to have a Republican lean).  That was supposed to be his big pick-off state, but he had to tuck his tail between his legs and pull out.

He's trying to play in Pennsylvania, but he's losing by 12-15 points.

Trying to hold Virginia, but losing by 8-12 points.  Trying to hold North Carolina, but losing by 2-6 points (prior to the Wachovia collapse).

He's losing Georgia by double digits in the early voting, because black folks have come roaring into the polling stations at 38% of the electorate.  They're literally lined up for hours in Atlanta.  Obama's even making inroads with ATL's notoriously right-wing suburbs (Bob Barr-Newt Gingrich Country).

Losing Colorado by 10 according to yesterday's PPP poll.  Now, for the record, I'm reluctant to immediately take that result from them as they don't really have a history of polling in the Mountain West (they're great in the Midwest and the least-bad in the South though).  But I have no reason to really doubt it beyond perhaps a slight overstatement of Obama's support (feels like a solid 6- to 8-point lead to me).

Every poll has Obama up in Florida and consistently hitting 50-51%, with margins ranging from small to impressive.  That should never have happened.  How, in an election breaking on age all year, is McCain losing the oldest state in the Union to a black guy with a name that probably strikes most Americans as being "Islamic"?

West Virginia seems to be steadily closing for Obama, even if we throw out the laughable ARG poll that had him ahead.  West Virginia?!  The state with the ex-Klansman for a senator?!

Everybody but Rasmussen has Obama up in Ohio.  Missouri's now a toss-up, but it's probably lean Obama given the wide gap on the ground games.

A new poll out today from Minnesota State University has Obama taking the lead in North Dakota for what I think is the first time ever.  I generally don't trust university polling, and McCain is probably still ahead, but the fact that ND is even close tells you how much trouble McCain is in.

Iowa's gone.  New Mexico's probably gone.  The Kerry states are probably gone.  Virginia's dangerously close to gone.  North Carolina will be gone if the trends keep up for another week or two.

It will take a lot for McCain to get out of the hole.  He's in deep.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:17:17 PM EST
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Good news out of ATL but have to be careful about getting excited, the early vote  percentages may not reflect the final voting percentages.  Cautious optimism is the best stance, here.  IMO.  :-)

Ed Rollins, GOP strategist, is saying McCain needs "to restart his campaign."  For the 4th time.  21 days out from election day.  With early voting already underway.  

Rollins also said Obama is "a young inexperienced outsider."   Which says to me the GOP doesn't understand - at ALL - what is happening to them.  

Good.

by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:43:09 PM EST
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The proportion that is AA will almost undoubtedly fall.  (If it didn't, Obama would win GA in a walk.)  The question is, How much?  If Obama can keep it at or above 31%, he's got a good shot, depending on how the white vote comes down and how Barr performs.  Anything above 35% black share is an Obama win.  Needs 26-30% of the non-black vote if black share is below 35%, I believe.  Doable when you consider that about 7% of the electorate will be Latino, and that Georgia has an unusually high number of young whites.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:50:20 PM EST
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I'm going to tell you like I told MSOC a few weeks ago. Leave the AA vote out of your poll and "Bradley effect" analyses. Period.

There is not enough AAs in America to guarantee a BHO win even allowing for B/D adjustment, new voter registration, and 100% voter turnout. Can you READ? +90% AA vote for BHO is already accounted.

If so, please perform an attitude adjustment in your comments to nag every other non-performing minority class and the undecided in the ethnic majority to transcent their racism.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 03:52:00 PM EST
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Nate over at FiveThirtyEight concluded the "Bradley Affect" doesn't exist.  

If you would like I'll zip over there and grab the link.

by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 04:14:40 PM EST
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The "Bradley effect" so far as I know is a euphemism for a well-documented statistical error revealed by comparison of product marketing surveys on adoption and actual sales: lying.

In The Marketing Literature, explanations of lying revolve around survey design and repondent (dis)incentives, e.g. financial compensation. IIRC, lying's contribution to confidence intervals is neglible, when sampling protocols and design (e.g. questionnaire language, scalar inputs) are defensible.

The ethical dilemma for political scientists so far as I can see in the case of either Bradley, Obama or any other candidate, is how to explain resulting error or anticipated error as compared to actual returns. That is a discrepancy between prediction and reality of vote administration.

The presence of liars in any sample for political scientists is compounded not so much by opinion survey design, I think, as collection errors in the franchise, e.g. technical discards, abject fraud, reporting accuracy, all of which is controlled. One then might reasonably expect that political sciencists organize, agitate, and litigate secretaries of state to guarantee random (or "free") voters' rights. However such organization, if any, is apparently ineffective, for whatever reason(s). I'll not digress.

I don't remember the explanation(s), given by political scientists or legal authorities, of Bradley's "unexpected" defeat at that time. Let's assume I don't remember, because the predictions of political scientists didn't and don't interest me and at that time I was familiar with Jersey democratic practices and history.

Today I am equally unconcerned by predictions, given by political scientists with respect to Mr Obama's victory or defeat. And I am extremely skeptical of any explanation that depends on and anticipates a (racist) liar distortion of a statistical event which, incidentally, has not occurred. I will vote as I intend to, regardless of political scientists' predictions ... or the final disposition of my ballot for that matter.

Dog, tail, all that.

While I cannot be everywhere at once, I will be an election judge (LOL what a moniker!) to help assure any of my neighbors who want to vote during my watch is able to submit a ballot.

So, no, thank you. I personally am not interested in Nate over at FiveThirtyEight's exegesis on the "Bradley effect". Unless it includes a significant analysis comparing franchise administration, i.e. voting rights. Don't let that stop you though from posting them :)

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 09:25:50 AM EST
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I don't even see the terror attack working in McCain's favor anymore. He's old. Obama looks tough, and isn't exactly a peacenik leftie.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 06:36:16 PM EST
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With Latino's breaking 69% to 26% New Mexico is going Obama, not enough GOP numbers in CD 2 to counter.
by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:05:34 PM EST
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It'll be wider than that among Latinos, I think.  Probably more like 73-75% for Obama in the end.  I suspect he'll come close with whites, and the blowout among Latinos will be more than enough to put it away.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:37:29 PM EST
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Well.  Maybe.

I'm hoping the RCC Archbishop up in Santa Fe keeps his damn mouth shut this time.  Convinced he threw NM to Bush in '04 by his pre-election Sunday sermon and the letter he sent to the RCC priests.  

by ATinNM on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:00:07 AM EST
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I'm watching Chuck Todd move Missouri to toss-up, West Virginia from "Solid McCain" to "Lean McCain," and asking for polling data from Arkansas.

Now Chuck's usually a little behind the curve, and -- bless his little heart -- he's trying his damnedest to not put Obama over 270 yet.

But Arkansas?  If Todd's right, things have really gone funny, and I'm gonna need to lie down.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:12:00 AM EST
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Arkansas?  Huh?

Rasmussen had McCain up 9 in their 9/22 poll.

Wonder what he is hearing.

by ATinNM on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:23:50 AM EST
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Well, if it was 9 on 9/22, it's not inconceivable to think it could've closed to perhaps four or five, I guess, but I suspect AR won't swing with the national movements in the same way that (say) Virginia does.  Sort of the opposite of Michigan, which has swung massively -- more than the nationals.  I suspect it's no closer than 6.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:48:43 AM EST
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Or maybe Missouri's not a toss-up anymore.  SurveyUSA:

Obama 51
McCain 43

Throw another 11 points on the pile for now.  That gets Obama to 364.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:31:27 PM EST
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Obviously that's MarekNYC's work.  It was slightly McCain, then Marek showed up and turned it around.

:-)

by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:46:58 PM EST
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Here's a fun set of figures for ya: 708,823 people have registered to vote in North Carolina between January 1st and October 8th.  Of those, 45.48% are Dems, 22.78% are Reps, and the rest are Indies and Libertarians.

37% were between the ages of 18 and 25.  30% were black (compared with ~20% of the state population per the Census Bureau).

Massive movements.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:05:55 PM EST
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hmm quick run through of calculations, if you had 100% turnout on those figures, a 66% obama vote amongst the young and a 90% Obama vote amongst Black voters, (I'm sure I've seen that proportion somewhere) then he's only going to need 17% of the other voters, (Including those non black, non youthful democrats)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:40:58 PM EST
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Quick and dirty: Obama's going to get 95% of the black vote under the worst-case scenario, I'd guess.  90% is the standard-issue share for a Democrat in the post-Clinton Era.  97% or 98% is not unlikely.

He needs about 35-37% of the white vote in NC to win it in that scenario.  Right now he's running at about 37-39% in pre-Wachovia Collapse polling, and I suspect the number will rise a bit.  At 40%, it's over.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:43:59 PM EST
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Dole is out of money.  She blew through $3 million and is now having to self-finance.
by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:41:52 PM EST
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Yeah, just read that.

Hi-larious.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:55:41 PM EST
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Looking like a good chance of a 7 seat gain in the Senate, a 'maybe' in Minnesota, and I don't know where the other 2 can come from.  
by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:14:31 PM EST
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Cook just updated the Georgia race to toss-up, which usually means we're a few weeks ahead of that, putting Martin in the lead now.  I kind of think we're going to get that seat.  I still think it's more likely McCain wins Georgia than not, but Obama will get close enough to get Martin what he needs.

I think we're going to get Minnesota.  Three of the last four polls have Franken in the lead, and the mo is with him.

That makes nine.  Need either Mississippi or Kentucky to get to the Lieberman-proof, 60-seat Congress.  Running the table on MS, GA, and KY gets us 61+Holy Joe.

For the first time, I'm starting to think we may just get those 60 seats.

Two races to watch now: Maine and Texas.  The DSCC's pouring cash into Maine.  Seem to be on the verge of falling into single digits.  Texas is back in single digits too.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:28:06 PM EST
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I'm hopeful for Minnesota.  Franken seems to have (finally) hit his stride; I'd like to see some distance between him and Coleman before getting all worked up.

If Georgia goes I wonder about Mississippi?  Very similar demographics and dynamics working there.  

McConnell is in real trouble in Kentucky.  He's down to pure mud and slime and every so slowly Lunsford seems to be catching up.  

I think I said I don't understand why Snowe is doing so well in Maine.  Still don't.  :-)

I've read the RNC was sitting on a chunk of change they could throw into Senate/House races at the last minute.  They've got to decide if they are going to cut McCain loose and try to support on-the-edge candidates in the House and Senate.  That's a bit of a problem as cutting McCain loose will get lots of media attention which will hurt GOP down-ticket candidates by lowering turn-out.  If they keep propping-up McCain's advertising they won't have any money to try and play defense later.  So damned if they do, damned if they don't.

by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:51:10 PM EST
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I think they're going to cut McCain loose if something magical doesn't happen right about...now.  I mean, what are they supposed to do -- keep hanging their hats on the John Zogby Special Kind of Stupid Drunken Frat Party Dart Game Tracking Poll?  Even the magic Battleground poll luvs it sum majic Negro now, and they'd been clinging to that one for weeks when that evil liberal little shit Rasmussen sold them out.

Or something.

Seriously, I don't see the logic in putting the money on McCain.  Unless things shift strongly, it's like going down to the track to bet on a three-legged dachshund against the greyhound.

Losing the Senate seats and the White House would be devastating to them.  The Senate races are closer.  Bet on the Senate races.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:05:36 AM EST
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CW says the GOP is facing a minimum of 17 in the House and the White House.  Dems winning 60 Senate seats destroys the GOP for the next 2 years.  

I agree.  The best move is to throw the money into the Senate races.

by ATinNM on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:18:35 AM EST
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"minimum lose of"
by ATinNM on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:19:24 AM EST
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"minimum losS of," even ;)

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:20:35 AM EST
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(LOL)
by ATinNM on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:25:25 AM EST
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loss, loose, lose, less, loses, loess, lass ...

somewhere in there is the word I want.

by ATinNM on Tue Oct 14th, 2008 at 12:29:55 AM EST
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Thank you. Actually I think the ground game does make a bit of a difference. We've just been told the details of our nightmarish but hopefully difference making election weekend. Unfortunately it seems the resources don't include a dose of meth to keep us from zombifying by Tuesday.
by MarekNYC on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:22:03 PM EST
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I apparently stand corrected after having said to you that your time in Virginia would be more valuable.  Over the last week or two, especially now with this poll, I've been starting to think Obama will win Missouri.  He's running up absolutely crushing margins in St Louis and Kansas City, and he ain't doing too badly in "Missouruh" either.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:36:26 PM EST
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That's been the key for Democratic wins in Missouri for as long as I can remember.  Keep the losses in the hinterland to a minimum and rack up the win in St. Lou and KC.
by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:45:29 PM EST
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I'm flabbergasted by how well (comparatively speaking) this poll shows him doing in SW Missouri - John Ashcroft/Roy Blunt territory.   I mean, he's not going to win there but if he can stay at 40% the cities will easily make up the rest for him.

Rasmussen poll shows it tighter - but he's still ahead.  

I'm trying not to get greedy but I can't remember the last time we had an election in Missouri that wasn't close.  

by Maryb2004 on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:11:11 PM EST
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Ras showing it close is a good sign given the tendencies of his polls.  I'm going to be interested to see what PPP has to say on it tomorrow, as well as their take on NC.

I suspect it'll be slightly tighter than SUSA in MO and maybe a 5-point lead for Obama in NC (the 6-pointer from a week or two ago struck be as too generous, but I suspect a 4- or 5-point lead is not out of the realm of possibility given Virginia).

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:31:30 PM EST
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Getting 40% in the SW is AMAZING.  

Columbia (U of M) should also go hot for Obama in an otherwise Red Sea.  

From afar it looks like the McCaskill coalition plus.

by ATinNM on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:34:51 PM EST
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Think ya have to go to Iowa for the meth though.

Just FYI.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:56:11 PM EST
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Good job!  It's true.  You arrived and the polls jumped.

Can you come back in 2010 when we want to defeat Kit Bond?

by Maryb2004 on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:08:34 PM EST
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It's funny how just yesterday kos was implying that the big polls in the tradmed were essentially dishonest for playing into the neck and neck too close to call sell more papers meme, and now this.

The wheels are falling off the McCain campaign quite badly. The thing I find difficult is that I always accepted that McCain was morally challenged, but that's what you'd expect from a repug.

No, what has surprised me is not that he's gone to the deepest rottenest parts of the barrel for some of his dog-whistling, it's that he seems to have realised at the last minute he's crsossed a line and lost enthusiasm for his own campaign.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:42:50 AM EST
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McCain's biggest problem always been McCain. He has no message beyond 'I'm a hero' - which seems to be a lie anyway - and 'Give it to me.'

Otherwise he's just a random guy in a suit with a combover. He's a salesman with a fine line in bullshit but no product to sell.

Palin is already hating on McCain for losing her the presidency (sic). She will never forgive him for this - it couldn't her fault, clearly - so expect reports of 'tensions' if not outright civil war from the McCain camp in the next few weeks.

The wheels are off, the damage is done. It's over.

Only a big dramatic event - an assasination, a dead city - might have a hope of bringing it back to McCain.

Even then the odds would only be 50:50, because I think there might be some serious unpleasantness if something like that happened now.

Besides, Bush and Cheney are more than happy to throw McCain overboard. They've made their money and had their fun, and I don't think they're interested in what happens next.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:54:44 AM EST
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ThatBritGuy:
Besides, Bush and Cheney are more than happy to throw McCain overboard. They've made their money and had their fun, and I don't think they're interested in what happens next.

Well theyve screwed him over before, why not again. its almost as if they dont like him.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:02:07 PM EST
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its almost as if they dont like him.

They don't.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:05:28 PM EST
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dog
see more puppies

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:25:09 PM EST
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You know TBG can't resist the lolpets.  Just watch. ;)

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:37:47 PM EST
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I know, I know...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:46:16 PM EST
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would be another viral method of spreading the good word. Being a marketing kinda guy, I love pictures with twisty headlines ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:49:11 PM EST
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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:58:40 PM EST
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Lolcombover:

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 02:16:48 PM EST
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There's only a few millimeters difference between a combover and trepanning.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 03:08:39 PM EST
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now that's just wishfull thinking

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 04:38:53 PM EST
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Poor St John.  And now he's lost the gin-soaked ex-Englishman literary critic vote.  When you've lost fellow warmonger Christopher Hitchens, you know you're in trouble.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 06:10:45 PM EST
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That's just the appetiser.

Think Progress » McCain campaign attacks Bill Kristol:

Yesterday on Fox News Sunday, Bill Kristol said John McCain's campaign has really become "a pathetic campaign." In his New York Times op-ed this morning, Kristol went further, suggesting that McCain should "fire his campaign" and "start over."

Asked to respond to Kristol's criticisms, McCain campaign spokeswoman Nancy Pfotenhauer said on Fox News:

"Well, you know Bill is entitled to his perspective. And I used to work for Bill. And I can tell you personally sometimes he's brilliant and sometimes he's not. And this is one where it's the latter category. You know, I think unfortunately he has bought into the Obama campaign's party line."

Spontaneous combustion - win!

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 07:01:31 PM EST
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Bill Kristol -- in the tank for Obama!

To the tune of the Mickey Mouse song.

M-C-C

(See ya real soon!)

A-I-N

(That's not change we can believe in, my friends!)

PANCAKES

FOR THE WIN!

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 10:54:44 PM EST
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Bush is already furious with him.  He fucked up the bailout bill and sent the market through the floor with his wacko "suspension" and gimmicks with House Republicans.  Before that, he tried to push Bush out of the convention, which was supposed to be his last big speech in front of his constituents, and a big chance to fire up the base in person.  Apparently after that Bush's attitude became, "Fuck it, when he loses, it'll be his own fault."

Bush doesn't like McCain to begin with, and McCain has done nothing but piss him off over the last few months.  That's damaging to McCain on issues like base support and fundraising.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 01:41:19 PM EST
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The Reps are in open rebellion behind the scenes.  They're furious with McCain, because he's now dragging down their congressional and senatorial candidates.  The polls put out by the tradmed seem to be returning to the old status of being 3-4 points better for Obama than the trackers (the one exception being Kos's poll which lines up with the tradmed polls).  The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.  Meaning 7 or 8 points feels like the state of the race in LV models.  Among registered voters, it's more like 9 or 10.

The press has brutalized McCain for weeks.  I don't know what sparked it initially (Palin, lying, economic incompetence, wacky stunts, take your pick), but they're pissed, especially at the racialized hatefests that McCain-Palin rallies have become.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Oct 13th, 2008 at 12:29:21 PM EST
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