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Yup. The INDU's racing down below 9000 (@ 10:43 Eastern). My gut tells me that the market, though it may temporarily go lower, is just about where it should be. (nope, I have no charts or data to support that other than my gut feeling that traditional growth in equities would put us just about here at this level)

I always thought that the market we witnessed these many years was in fact an equities bubble. I got everything out of the market (an IRA, a 401K, and what equities I purchased myself) just after the DJIA hit 10,000 for the first time). Nobody's calling this a correction yet, but that's what I've always thought it is.

The banking crisis is a separate matter. It's as if bankers themselves have stopped believing in their own business model.

Also a separate, though it's all related, matter is the underlying softness of the US economy and the ongoing conservative assault on the middle class.

In other words, a lot of chickens are coming home to roost.

"It Can't Be Just About Us"
--Frank Schnittger, ETian Extraordinaire

by papicek (papi_cek_at_hotmail_dot_com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:08:21 AM EST
long overdue.  I wonder how the ultra-wealthy are going to maneuver this situation so that they become richer/more powerful and the rest of us are more screwed?  Anybody out there think like one of the ultra-wealthy folks?

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:13:18 AM EST
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I suspect the ultra wealthy sold between July 2007 and October 2007. The wealth is likely in gold and cash in various currencies other than US dollars. I'm sure there are some deals to be had in the markets now and some may be buying. Others may be waiting it out longer.
by Magnifico on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:32:51 AM EST
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I thought maybe they're investing in Blackwater so that they have their own armed forces.  What good is wealth if you can't defend it.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 11:38:28 AM EST
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papicek:
It's as if bankers themselves have stopped believing in their own business model.

enter chris cook stage left..oops, he's off enlightening the iranians!

you're going to be an even busier man, chris.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 05:57:25 PM EST
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