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He he. But I am serious in a svennish way.

You spend your days on risk analysis- as you say - and I do the same. The risk analysis of words.

A  client in outdoor clothing contacted me today about a semiotic matter. They wanted to use the word 'Joy' as an attribute of what they bring to the consumer. I pointed out that a joy boy is a homosexual prostitute and joy can be interpreted as powdered drugs such as cocaine and heroin in gay slang. And there is a gay/lesbian radio station in Australia called 'JOY'.

Most of my client's target audience would know nothing of this slang. For them 'joy' would mean intense, innocent happiness. Happy innocence. But from  a risk analysis POV, what if a gay culture really got into the 'joy' aspect and promoted it as an 'inside' thing ? Fitness, good-looking - what is there not to like?

As I told them, for their 90% hetero audience it could be a negative. It is not bound to happen, but if it did, it would be very destructive. That is risk analysis - of a different kind.

I deal in perceptions - facts of a different kind. What is human nature?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Oct 15th, 2008 at 06:11:03 PM EST
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How many words don't carry a slew of other connotations (like "joy")?

And isn't every major word (or lexical field) mined for its power (in communications, advertising, politics) to the point it becomes dispersed, its currency debased?

Is there no more primary (unequivocal, innocent, naive) use of language (other than in minority, regional, often dying, languages, and in the speech of children?)

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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Oct 16th, 2008 at 02:02:07 AM EST
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I am not sure it becomes debased - just that its meaning is changed. And this is a normal process in the evolution of language. Words are place-markers for ideas. It is the ideas and concepts, and how they represent social interaction, that are important.

The placemakers themselves can evolve or disappear - like the term Whig. The ideas themselves (eg Whigs and constitutional monarchism), need quite a bit of detail to understand and an awareness of the historical implications of them and the use of them in different cultural contexts.

Like the word 'architecture' it is easier to define that which it is not, than what it actually represents. But we use the word all the time - or at least I do.

Another tendency in the evolution of words and phrases is elision: The Tottenham Hotspur Football Club becomes Spurs. This elision, if it is used with sufficient frequency, is understood by all who are interested in the subject. Acronyms like jpeg become nouns, verbs, whatever you like - are also understood by all who are interested.

But the elision and evolution of words will also mean that there are people who do not understand them or misunderstand the particular cultural reference.  I am not sure what you can do about that except to exercise considerable sensitivity to context which is sometimes difficult when you are passionate ;-)

My argument is not about a specific instance of a particular word, but about a principle concerning word definitions in general. As place-markers many words are continually evolving, eliding and shifting in meaning. Some recognition of that is incumbent upon both writer and reader imo.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 01:25:15 PM EST
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But there are also words and phrases that continue to reinforce negative perceptions and stereotypes.  Referring to something rubbish as being 'gay' is an example. Gay is very widely known to mean homosexual and so using that word to describe something as being crap, associates being gay as a bad and negative thing. It increases stigma.  

Argue that people should have the freedom to do what they like with words or whatever, but in my view, it is unnecessary to take the word gay and use it in place of crap or rubbish.  And it is tedious to deliberately swear to try to shock, or to be all hard hitting and anarchic with language (I say this in a general sense - and also as a person who lets profanities slip in plenty often in conversation with friends).

Same thing applies to 'mad' 'insane' 'nuts' 'crazy' and so on...
Here's a bit from a Scottish campaign that raises awareness of stigma and portrayal of mental health in the media etc. They are not trying to be linguistic fascists but to simply point out that it is unnecessary to reinforce negative associations wrt gender, sexuality etc when there are other phrases that can be used instead.

Media guidelines: a practical guide for Stigma Stop Watchers

Eliminating the stigma and discrimination that surrounds mental ill health is an essential part of improving the quality of life and social inclusion of people who experience mental health problems. The media often perpetuates the ignorance and fear surrounding mental health problems through embellished and incorrect reporting of mental health issues.
At worst, headlines sometimes carry derogatory language, for example `nutter', `manic' or `schizo,' which would be unthinkable in relation to race or physical disability.  The link between violence and mental illness is also exaggerated. Millions of people have mental health problems - very few are violent. This type of media reporting often has a negative affect on people with mental health problems.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 02:37:45 PM EST
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I agree about reinforcement, it happens. But I believe ridicule is a far more flexible tool to deal with reinforcement than proscribing which words you are allowed to use and how they are defined (ie what they stand for as symbols)

Some of the stand-ups comics and comedians that I love - and it is a wide range historically from Lenny Bruce/Dan Hicks/George Carlin to the Larry David/Ricky Gervais/earlier Billy Connolly, are more precise, more underastandable and more influential social commentary than can be found anywhere else.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 03:00:52 PM EST
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