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...Mount Vesuvius...

When we reached the cone all I could think about was James Mason in "Journey to the Center of the Earth" And with trumpets blaring, his incredible voice exclaims "Behold, Kraken!" The only active volcano in Europe, there is smoke still coming forth.

Other active volcanoes: in Italy the Etna, Stromboli; and indeed volcanoes in Iceland where the "Journey to the Center of the Earth" begins.

We took a Circumvenstevia, the local service, to Naples where we caught a speedy train to Rome.

Circumvesuviana. A narrow-gauge network around the Vesuvius. The "speedy train" must be a high-speed train.

I believe with a strong Euro, instead of exporting the Italians are investing in themselves. I see new construction and remodeling everywhere we go.

As good as that sounds, I doubt this construction is a novelty since the Euro became strong, and suspect the EU also has to do with some of the new construction.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 03:42:40 AM EST
Forgot:

And I haven't seen one, not one tattoo and very few piercings. Kind of restores my faith in fashion.

I wonder about this. Thinking of the Italian football national team, I would think tattoos are very much in fashion. (Here is a photo for our female readers...)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 03:46:21 AM EST
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I think you need to read all of this throught the lens of "as compared to what we are used to in our region in America."

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 10:57:51 AM EST
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in Italy the Etna, Stromboli;

Stromboli is the most impressive. I climbed to the top at night about 10 years ago: you could stand above the crater, and watch it errupt every 20 minutes. These days I think it's acting a bit less regularly, and for now they don't allow you to climb all the way.

I needed to wear a warm coat, even though this was southern  Italy in June. They don't call these islands the Aeolian islands for nothing...

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 04:07:53 AM EST
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Seriously now. Etna beats Stromboli on all scales of awe,  hands down... But for catching a volcano in the act, Stromboli is brilliant. (Mt Vesuvius just scares the crap out of me. The countdown to catastrophe is running...)

Visits to Stromboli are a bit more micro-managed since the northern flank partially collapsed and resulting mini-tsunamis wrecked parts of the main village in December 2002. The volcano itself is still very regular, Europe's best equivalent of ye Old Faithful geyser. It's the accessibility to the viewpoint that has become more variable, depending on the wiliness of the volcano.

by Nomad on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 07:13:06 AM EST
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Are there any plausible estimates as to the possible scale of the next Vesuvius eruption? It's become if anything even scarier, with recent archeological evidence of the 1780 B.C. eruption, that burried Naples itself.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 07:47:59 AM EST
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Not one plausible estimate. The only guarantee to you is that the longer Vesuvius is quiet, the more severe the next eruption will be.

Eruptions of Vesuvius always were dramatic, destructive and very sudden prior to the lull since ~1944 - and now for the worrying bit: the period of quiescence is one of the volcano's longest in recent history.

Of course Vesuvius could also sleep for another 200, 400, 500 years.

There is an evacuation plan which looks fine - on paper. What struck me immediately when I first read about it, is that it is run on the 1631 eruption - which was not by any standard the most severe eruption, and I'm not the only one to point that out.

Or am I a doom-monger now? Though everyone seems to love doom-p0rn these days.

by Nomad on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 09:03:55 AM EST
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recent archeological evidence of the 1780 B.C. eruption

Link? Would be very interested.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:39:55 AM EST
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Here's a link to a 2006 NY Times article.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:59:31 AM EST
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  1.  I'll blame the Italian tour guide who probably told them that factoid. :)

  2.  No way was I going to go through and try to spell check this whole thing in Italian (and French and German)!  There will be many misspellings.  I suppose that is what it sounded like to their ears.

  3.  Why can't you just be happy they're acknowledging the success of Europe?!! ;)


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:01:43 AM EST
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They would be acknowledging the success of Berlusconi.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:42:13 AM EST
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I honestly don't think they see it that way.  I think Paul is just impressed with the country.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:47:28 AM EST
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No, I wasn't thinking about whom they would think responsible, I was explaining why I could not take on your suggestion that a strong-Euro-time construction upswing in Italy could be seen as a success of Europe.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:56:45 AM EST
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