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Michelangelo's David. There's always this routine about disproportionate hands or heads in sculpture. One, David is a child- although he certainly doesn't look like one- so his body does not follow standard adult canons. Two, statues were made in relation to their surroundings and their position, thus techniques of perspective and foreshortening were used. The statue was originally in front of the town hall on a short pilaster where there is now a copy.  It is seen from below as you go up the stairs so the hands' size conveys a youthful effect.

For another master of hands and feet admire Rodin.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 04:35:59 AM EST

I don't think the hands make him look particularly "youthful" and it seems that wasn't Michelangelo's idea:

In his writings, Michelangelo describes his warrior-hero: "Eyes watchful...the neck of a bull...hands of a killer...the body, a reservoir of energy. He stands poised to strike."

http://www.eyeconart.net/history/Renaissance/michelangelo.htm



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 07:42:00 AM EST
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Warrior kids make for ruthless and reckless killers as modern third world warfare testifies.

The young age of David is biblical and unquestioned in Renaissance iconography. The tuft of hair above the genitals grants him puberty. Donatello's small bronze appears even younger.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 08:08:26 AM EST
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I didn't say that the Biblical David wasn't young. M's David doesn't look like a kid, nor do his hands. M's own description of them as the "hands of a killer" seems more apt.


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 08:19:13 AM EST
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Also your point about perspective doesn't make much sense; from below the hands are closer than the head so there is no need to make them bigger, they will seem so anyway. Now, if he had his arms above his head ...  :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 08:53:18 AM EST
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His head is big too.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:03:10 AM EST
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Yes, that makes sense, looking up at it, it's further away - but also very important.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:24:53 AM EST
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In Ossequio al criterio della visibilità Michelangelo ingrandisce alcune parti, la testa e le mani, che paiono sproporzionate, anche se dal disegno perfetto; questo perché il progetto iniziale dell'opera prevedeva una visione dal basso ad una grande distanza che richiedeva accorgimenti ottici per una migliore resa espressiva del corpo. Questo effetto parzialmente visibile anche durante la sua esposizione in Piazza della Signoria si è ulteriormente attenuato in seguito al suo trasferimento nel museo dove è stato collocato in un piedistallo più basso di 63 centimetri.

"In deference to the criteria of visibility Michelangelo enlarged certain parts, the head and the hands, which appear out of proportion, although of perfect design; this because the initial project of the work was based on a viewpoint from the bottom and at a great distance which necessitated optical solutions for a better expressive rendition of the body. This effect, partially visible during its exposition in Piazza della Signoria, was further attenuated by its transfer to the museum where it rests on a pedestal that is 63 centimeters shorter."

The David was originally commissioned for the Duomo in a higher position to be admired at a great distance, not as I said above. On that I stand corrected.

Michelangelo by the way invented a muscle on the left wrist to further add expressive power.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:31:58 AM EST
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Actually, the right wrist.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 11:34:30 AM EST
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Well I'm happy to see you correcting yourself :-) I read that about the other possible site for the David. Of course, all of this has nothing to do with David's hands supposedly making him look "youthful".

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 02:43:34 PM EST
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I've no problem correcting myself. Only this time around I get to eat my correction. Or put it in perspective for the discerning ET public to evaluate the evidence.

It appears that the jury is out on the "original intent" for the collocation of Michelangelo's David. In the 1501 contract between Michelangelo and the Opera del Duomo there is no mention of its destination. On one hand there is the block of marble that had been there since 1464 when the Opera had commissioned Agostino di Duccio to carve a "prophet," perhaps a "David" as Tolnay contends. Originally, the statue was to be situated on an exterior column of one of  the buttresses.

However, the Opera itself did not appear to be concerned with its final destination- or at least did not voice their opinion until 1504. By 1504 the city government called a commission of the city artists and artisans to debate on where the statue should be situated. The dominant political opinion saw David as the new icon of Florentine power to replace Donatella's "Judith and Holofernes" after having fallen in disgrace over the loss of Pisa. By then the statue was either to replace Donatella's work at the entrance of Palazzo Vecchio or be situated in the Palace courtyard, the latter opinion shared  by Leonardo da Vinci and Sangallo.

The likelihood that Michelangelo's David was to be placed on an exterior column of the Duomo was supported by the opinion of Francesco di Domenico who argued that the statue had been made for the Duomo. His argument though may have been made on a matter of principal rather than on technical considerations. After all, the Christ was the seed of the Flower of Mary, a direct descendant of David. But since di Domenico was also in charge of the Hall of the Great Council he may have had a conflict of interest. His opinion contrasted with that of the Signori of the Opera del Duomo who, perhaps influenced by Michelangelo, argued for Piazza della Signoria.

It is interesting that none of the great artists on the commission, Leonardo of all or even Botticelli, were concerned with the optical corrections Michelangelo may have incorporated in his work had the statue been effectively made to be put on a high column at the Duomo. One may surmise that the optical effects of its hypothetical destination at the Duomo was not considerably different from its final location in Piazza della Signoria. Perhaps Michelangelo all along had allowed for a certain margin of optical corrections since its final destination was by contract at the discretion of the Signori of the Opera del Duomo. Or perhaps Michelangelo had secretly nurtured the idea all along- and promoted it- that his David would represent Florentine power rather than just be one of many statues along the side and back of a cathedral. Only AutoCad can tell.

In conclusion, seeing that none of his extraordinary contemporaries were particularly concerned with David's proportions being out of place in front of Palazzo Vecchio, one may once again ask the fairly trivial question, why are David's hands and head so big? I'm sure there are several concurring reasons, as should be, with one of the greatest works of art ever made.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sat Oct 18th, 2008 at 06:25:26 PM EST
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