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Thanks, now what is really going on here? :-P

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 03:27:05 AM EST
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... process providing the finance to buy the goods that are being sold as a result of the discount.

Nobody in China ever prevented the US from focusing that finance on electrifying the strategic rail network and putting a national inter-regional HVDC grid in place, while establishing feed-in tariffs to encourage investment in domestic renewable energy production.

The decision to use the external finance for a consumption binge rather than an investment drive was entirely made within the US.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 05:23:01 PM EST
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But the amount of finance that China provides in the process of depressing its FXR is correlated with the trade balance between the US and China. I other words, if the US doesn't buy the Chinese goods there is no upwards pressure on the dollar value of the yuan, and no need for China to accumulate reserves and provide finance to the US. So if the US decides to use the Chinese finance to build infrastructure, the Chinese finance dries up.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 06:34:00 PM EST
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The funds are not channeled. The US trade deficit includes manufactured goods trade deficits with Asia, Latin America, Europe, and a substantial trade deficit driven by energy imports.

If the US were to use Chinese finance to build infrastructure, that would attract foreign direct investment in the US, which would tend to push up the value of the US$, which would finance a manufactured goods trade deficit and, yes, the Chinese could shift their focus to maintaining a discount of the yuan/renminbi against the Euro, Yen, Pound Stirling, etc.

But its only perfect information in marginalist modeling that eliminate the impact of timing ... infrastructure construction is an increase in effective demand during the construction of infrastructure ... it is not a contribution to productive potential until it comes online.

Or, for a historical example, after the establishment of the Euro, with the creation of a Euro capital market with the same depth of liquidity as US$ capital markets, and without a foreign exchange risk, there was a substantial amount of acquisition of US-owned Eurozone operations by Eurozone domiciled corporations. As that acquisition wave was in place, it depressed Euro exchange rates against the dollar. Once the wave had passed, with the reduction in income account outflows from the Eurozone to the US, the long term impact was an increase in Euro exchange rates against the dollar.

Of course, with perfect foresight there is no such wave effect ... just as with an adequate wingspan and sufficiently strong flight muscles, pigs could fly and shares in the reinforced umbrella industry would be a growth stock.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Oct 17th, 2008 at 06:58:24 PM EST
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