And the purpose of my questions tonight was simply to get the women involved and find out how many women are currently participating. :-)
It can also be difficult for a female group leader to keep the men in place, and keep them from taking over - hard work, I can tell you! :-)
I hope we can continue to talk about this off hand and more members take time to comment. Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
It should have been a ´group´ effort and Fran deserves credit for the all the time and effort, yet even regular male posters ´failed´ to join in. Maybe because it´s Friday.
Just because people are uncomfortable talking about social skills and want the rest to take behaviorist steps, doesn´t mean the effort isn´t worth it, or isn´t necessary, or is a failure. But it is thaat level of discomfort that can keep people away. Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
The sentence you quote is in response to Fran's claim that women became quiet at one point which isn't true, it's just that no women other than the usual participants joined the discussion. Regular male posters weren't asked to join in. Fran stated by asking women whose login names are not gendered to come forward.
I didn't say the effort was a failure or not worth it. Stop putting words in my mouth.
I thought I was the one who was uncomfortable talking about social skills and that doesn't keep me away. A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
Could the women with names with do not obviously indicate their gender come out and declare themselves? it would be interesting to know. Also if you do not join in regular discussions here, could you tell us why?
Also if you do not join in regular discussions here, could you tell us why?
By that I assumed Fran was interesting in hearing from women who read, but do not contribute, to ET. A class to which I am not a member.
I endorse, even applaud, Fran's effort and given the purpose - and problems - I felt the least I could do to 'further the Cause' was to Shut Up.
I would like to see more openness toward other ways of thinking
This has an implied general claim (i.e. it's not just a claim about YOUR experience) so a request for evidence is justified. What is the evidence that there is a significant general lack of openness towards "other ways of thinking" here ? - apart from the fact that YOU have got SOME negative responses to SOME comments/diaries ? Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
