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There is challenge that furthers the debate and then there is the challenge you named following my rant against philosophers as sophist.

Both in the diary and in a comment made before this erupted I commented that I felt I had put myself on the line and made myself very vulnerable with writing this diary. I wrote this with the naive intent of wanting to suggest and inform and invite others to share their ideas about this subject, not to have mine or other contributions trashed just cos we can't furnish concrete proofs in sufficient detail to satisfy interrogators whose motives seem unclear.

This diary has 27 or so comments at this time. Only 3 or 4 seem to be on the subject I wrote about. Right now, I'm seriously regretting having written it. I'm sorry if I'm being over-sensitive and showing all the signs of being a drama queeen but I had thought I'd made my sensitivity about the subject plain at the time of writing.

You carry on. I'm done here

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 at 09:02:19 AM EST
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Where is ARGeezer when we need him ? :

... While I do not recommend that all college undergraduates be required to take a course on rhetroic, I do think that they should be required to take a course that alerts them to the power of that art to win on style arguments that should loose on substance.

http://www.eurotrib.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2008/10/18/55252/796

... not to have mine or other contributions trashed just cos we can't furnish concrete proofs in sufficient detail to satisfy interrogators whose motives seem unclear.

Where has anybody attacked what you wrote ? So I don't get the point about vulnerability, apart from trying to get the sympathy vote. Discussions often veer off in ways not expected by the authors of diaries.

Now we get more caricature - not only is a simple request for some evidence - to someone else in another place - to support a claim about general hostility in ET to certain kinds of subjects: "brutal pedantic skepticism" and "silencing" - now it's also to "trash" something and "interrogation" - where did I leave my jackboots ?

Talk about rhetoric ! At least now my motives are just "unclear" - though clearly they are suspicious.  

"Drama queen" - I couldn't possibly comment :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 at 10:35:44 AM EST
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more animals

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 at 10:47:51 AM EST
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Where is ARGeezer when we need him ?
Getting up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 at 01:11:15 PM EST
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I know what it's like :-( You attend to the important issues while we squabble :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 at 02:56:50 PM EST
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