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BBC NEWS | Business | Darling spending plan 'misguided'

The government's plan to spend its way out of the looming recession is "misguided and discredited", say leading economists.

Chancellor Alistair Darling wants to bring forward spending on key state-funded projects to kick-start economic recovery.

But a group of 16 economists say it risks damaging private sector recovery.

All very serious. And these clowns did such a good job of predicting the recent past that their credibility sails on, resolute and undented. Naturally.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Oct 27th, 2008 at 08:54:49 PM EST
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Darling's cited critics are economists working for the financial disservice industry.  They don't want to see money spent on something useful if they can get it poured onto the bondfire that it their own industry.  It is not the government sector that has gotten too big, but rather it is the financial sector.  His critics don't care if the money is going up in smoke as long as they get their share in bonuses.  Let the large investors watch their wealth burn.  Might teach them instill some fear to temper their greed for returns.

The City and its financial services industry must be much like Wall Street in the US--a giant leech attached to the body politic.  Heat from the glowing embers of that sector will cause the leech to let go--eventually.  The question is how much public debt will have to be assumed before that happens.  Let all of these financial service firms die.  There is nothing that can be done to stop it.  The only question is how much of our wealth to put on the funeral pyre.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Oct 27th, 2008 at 11:30:46 PM EST
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by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 09:50:18 AM EST
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I was watching a spokesperson from this particular group of propagandists on the BBC News channel yesterday. There message seemed could be distilled into three components:

  1. Interest rate cuts
  2. Tax Cuts - they did not specify for whom these tax cuts should be you can guess (I would guess that if we got the targets of these tax cuts wrong they would should "welfare" at the top of their lungs).
  3. If you must spend money then you should give the money to the private sector (give us your money). The usual bullshytt were given = governments can't spend money properly, we can - blah, blah, blah, blah).

The BBC guy gave him a hard time but an opposing view was not to be found. My guess is that this has less to do with the BBC's (or any other 24 hour news organisation) willingness to book somebody but that other orgs do not put people up to talk.  

Snippets of this interview were repeated constantly throughout the day.

Howard Dean said the first thing Democrats needed to do was turn up. He was right.


Money is a sign of Poverty - Culture Saying

by RogueTrooper on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 12:01:55 PM EST
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The right-wing tendencies of the British blogosphere are rather depressingly evident on this issue also.

1) There's a strong concentration on technicalities at the expense of the political message being pushed.

- For example a lot of concentration on the technical notions that a cut in low earner tax (e.g. a NI holiday) would feed into the economy quicker than infrastructure:

- No mention of the role of infrastructure contracts in slowing the collapse of construction employment.

- No mention that infrastructure spending provides more stimulus than tax cuts.

- No mention that in a highly indebted environment, low end tax cuts are as vulnerable as other money supply measures to "pushing on a string" problems.

2) Most of all however, no mention, as you note that they wouldn't actually be proposing a tax cut for the low end, let alone a tax cut for the low end only.

3) The allocative efficiency argument is so depressing, as we face a crisis built up out of the misallocation of resources by the market over a long period.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 12:13:15 PM EST
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>The right-wing tendencies of the British blogosphere
There too?!  I am going to have to let my subscription to the Economist lapse.  I can no longer bring myself to read very much of it.  Obviously outrageous tendentious misrepresentations in too many articles.  In the rare instances where a Serious Person makes a sensible suggestion that has unfortunate consequences for the backers of their ideology, they will sieze upon some possible misinterpretation or manufacture some silly claim to which they then respond.  I see enough of that from the McCain Campaign.  The money spent on this subscription would buy us better quality toilet paper for a year.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 02:53:45 PM EST
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