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Migeru: If China were the US they would bomb the meeting with cruise missiles.

With just the minor replacement of 'cruise' with 'drone', I believe -- if we take him at his word -- even a President Obama would indeed do that, if we take him at his word.

However, I would hope that he did so with some pre-established understanding with Pakistan's government.  (And my impression is that such an understanding between the U.S. and Pakistan already exists.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 07:18:08 AM EST
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With just the minor replacement of 'cruise' with 'drone', I believe

Sorry, I'm 10 years out of date, clearly.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 07:19:43 AM EST
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Write down everything that Obama says, promises, etc. and then burn the paper, throw away the disc, etc.  Absolutely meaningless drivel.  

List of obvious stuff.

  1. Obama is a black man.

  2. American is an ignorant racist country.

  3. The obvious economic demise of the US is countering the racist effect.

  4. Obama is a politician; ergo, he will say/promise ANYTHING to get elected.

  5.  Obama needs to say things, ANYTHING to get a whole bunch of racist hicks to vote for him, in both the domestic area and in foreign affairs.

  6.  Once Obama passes the Electoral College bar, THEN we will see where Obama stands on EVERYTHING.  All the stuff you've read/seen so far ... windowdressing.


In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 07:30:55 AM EST
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What would call a system of government that required a candidate to hide their true beliefs and intentions to get elected? "Democracy" doesn't seem to fit.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 07:38:17 AM EST
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people than myself.  Anybody else want to comment or disagree with my assessment?

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 07:55:31 AM EST
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in his principles and vision, and even if he changed the the means and details of how to get there, he would fight as hard as he could to stick to the core of what he promised.

Having said that, I don't think he will be elected.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 07:57:51 AM EST
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Given all of the polls only 1 week before the election, you still think that McCain will pull it out.  WOW!

If that happens, holy moly!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:04:14 AM EST
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Drew!  Paging Drew!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:08:09 AM EST
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on November 3, 2004.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:09:26 AM EST
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One week from now, the airwaves will be all abuzz with the election returns.  I'm an MSNBC junkie.  Europe is 8 hours latter than CA so that has to be considered.

But, a week from today, assuming I don't have tutoring the next day, I'll break out the good stuff and toast the "Santa Claus" revival in your name. Want to come along?

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:22:53 AM EST
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But only 6 hours later than NC, and the polls close there at 6pm. If exit polls show a clear lead for Obama, it's over...

Europe, BTW, is 9 hours later than CA. You're confusing England with Europe.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:29:32 AM EST
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Since I'm dealing with Europe, how many time zones am I dealing with, with Europe?  Where does England's time zone fit in with things?

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:36:25 AM EST
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Most of Europe is 6 hours ahead of the Eastern U.S. (to be really pedantic, will be when the U.S. goes on daylight saving time). The U.K, Ireland, and Portugal are only 5 hours ahead (not Spain, despite being mostly west of the U.K.). The countries east of Poland, as well as Greece and Finland, are 7 hours ahead.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:42:15 AM EST
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I'll bear that in mind from now on.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:51:29 AM EST
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check this out.

Got the embed to work.  Cool!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 08:59:07 AM EST
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Obama is a politician; ergo, he will say/promise ANYTHING to get elected.

Oh dear, political cartoon level cynicism again :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 10:30:07 AM EST
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Yes, but I typed it while I was smiling and in my underwear so it's valid.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Oct 28th, 2008 at 11:35:59 AM EST
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