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California votes to ban gay marriage - Times Online

California has voted to ban gay marriages only months after the practice was legalised, in a move which left thousands of homosexual couples stranded in a legal limbo.

The proposal to limit marriage to members of the opposite sex was approved by 52.1 percent of voters, compared with 47.9 percent who voted against, with 95 per cent of votes counted.

The referendum, known as Proposition 8, called for the California constitution to be amended by adding the phrase that: "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognised in California."

The plan, for which groups voted at the same time as for the president, was viewed by Conservatives as the people's way of overturning the state Supreme Court's ruling in May that legalised gay marriage.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 5th, 2008 at 03:18:37 PM EST
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to see California welcoming such reactionary politics

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 5th, 2008 at 04:41:04 PM EST
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Most of the time I'm quite proud/happy to be a Calefornean.  And then this kind of s**t happens.  Didn't think it had a chance.  Shows how little I know.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Nov 5th, 2008 at 04:48:42 PM EST
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It's a matter of time.  This was a nationally-fought initiative paid for by well-funded churches, the Mormons in particular. I feel that people are reading way too much into Prop 8 results thus far this week.
by paving on Thu Nov 6th, 2008 at 04:51:42 PM EST
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What's going to happen those who already managed to get married? Will their marriages retroactively become "invalid" or "unrecognised"?

Awfully disappointing that this thing passed.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Nov 5th, 2008 at 05:09:52 PM EST
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Most likely not.  The reason it became legal in June was because the State Supreme Court ruled it was already legal.  These should be grandfathered in.  None of that matters until this leaves the courts, however.  Expect it to go to the top as the question of denying equal rights to one group via constitutional amendment (in the state) is a natural for the federal government.  The 14th amendment would be the argument here and if the Supreme Court of the US hears it they can't legitimately rule otherwise.  
by paving on Thu Nov 6th, 2008 at 04:54:01 PM EST
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I've said all I want to say about this last night. But America has turned a corner ?? A large percentage of American voters yesterday actually preferred McCain/Palin. Whilst a significant minority choose such ignorant nihilism, prop8 and its look-alikes around the country always have a chance.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Nov 6th, 2008 at 09:06:32 AM EST
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