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So, Americans who say that since they don't poke their nose into our domestic affairs, we should stay out of theirs

This brings me back to my main critique of this site - it's too obsessed with viewing the world through the lens of nations. The time for that passed 100 years ago. Since we all live on this tiny enclosed planet, you're god damn right I'm interested in your political affairs, as you should be interested in mine.

I can barely tolerate the nationalism on this site, particularly the European inferiority complex, well honed and quite dysfunctional after decades of American ideological domination. Don't get me wrong - this site is as mild as it gets. For me, DailyKos is completely out of the question, as is every other politically themed community I've come across.

When I get defensive about the US in my comments, as I often do, a small chunk of it is indeed my American identity, but most of it is an infuriated human being watching us careen off the edge into the abyss while we split straws over meaningless medium term European advantages - meaningless if you give a shit about what might be going on in this planet beyond your own lifetime - which is fantastically short.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Tue Oct 7th, 2008 at 04:01:56 AM EST
Well said, MillMan.

But there are tectonic, or "Telluric" shifts going on - to wit, the pervasive spread of the Internet, and the direct "Peer to Peer" connections to which this gives rise.

IMHO these changes will make petty nationalism redundant except for ritual football/Olympic tribalism.

So I pretty much ignore such stuff as "fluff".

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue Oct 7th, 2008 at 06:50:07 AM EST
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This brings me back to my main critique of this site - it's too obsessed with viewing the world through the lens of nations.
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I can barely tolerate the nationalism on this site

Interesting remarks.

I'd say viewing the world through the lens of nations is one of the ways one can analyse the world events, as when we analyse the nations' reactions to the financial crisis. So it's perfectly legitimate, as long as it's only one of the possible views - which I'd think is the case here. You'll find just as often here an analysis though the filter of social classes.

As to nationalism, if you define nationalism as "my country, right or wrong", I don't see that so prevalent here...

by balbuz on Tue Oct 7th, 2008 at 04:07:34 PM EST
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My Country Right or Wrong? Man, I love that song ... hell, I never heard it when I was listening to the Oils, but only heard it because of the UTube.

But you're right, I embed it on ProgressiveBlue and Docudharma far more than I embed it here.



I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 11:58:51 PM EST
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