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Well, in my humble opinion, this is often the case, but some Northerners that I've met are just as open in their racism (not class based) as anyone in the South. Others just dodge personal contact with all African Americans whenever possible.  Some African Americans do the same though and don't like whites at all.  A lot depends, I suspect, upon the way they were reared and life experiences.

Actually, despite growing up in a racially segregated society, I find I have more in common, culturally, with African Americans and usually have an easier time forming friendships with them than with most white non-Southerners.  Hundreds of years of sharing the same culture comes through despite the circumstances.

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by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 11:18:44 PM EST
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I think most Southerners would admit that in private, even if many would hate to do so.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 11:12:00 AM EST
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I suspect many southern whites hate northern whites more than their black neighbours.

Question:   Would Obama publicly going back into Georgia help or damage Martin against Chambliss?  I.e would it polarise the senate race more and force a greater Martin/Obama identification which would damage Martin - even if it might help Obama in Georgia?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 11:25:24 AM EST
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I'm not sure.  I'd play it safe and not associate Martin and Obama too much, unless Obama's favorables are into the 50s in the state (which I doubt, but they may be for all I know).

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 12:43:36 PM EST
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I assume the political question is for Drew so I won't answer and don't really know the Georgia scene that well.

However, I want to respond to the comment about Southerners hating Northerners.  I don't see a lot of what I would call hate for white Northerners in the South, but I suspect there are some who "have no use" for Northerners.  Despite changes over the past 50 years, a cultural divide continues between the South and other parts of the U.S.  Sometimes I wonder if it's not becoming more pronounced.  My wife recalls overhearing a conversation between two Northerners as their commercial plane was about to land in a Southern State (and I've heard similar remarks so I wasn't surprized). One looking down and out the window stated "...they are different from us you know." The other responded "..yes, they even smell different."

Now, during the civil rights movement there were many Northerners who came South to support the African American movement in one way or the other (e.g., accompanying freedom riders).  They were resented by many Southerners who considered them to be interfering hypocrites, though their intentions may have been good. A few were murdered for their trouble.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 01:01:57 PM EST
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Also depends on where you are in the South.  As you know, we have a fair number of Northerners in NoVa.  The big southern cities all do, which explains a lot of the political changes taking place (as always: Virginia, NC and Georgia being the obvious examples).  The southern states without big, diverse cities -- basically all of the others -- are obviously the ones in which the cultural divide is most apparent.

Mostly it's a lack of experience that causes it, whether we talk about division by race or region.

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by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:58:50 PM EST
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