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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:21:47 PM EST
German Finance Minister Rules Out Hasty Bank Nationalizations | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 09.10.2008
The German government should not need to bring any national banks under its control in light of the current financial crisis, said Finance Minister Peter Steinbrueck.

The minister painted a picture of Germany's banking sector as sound and afloat, but still vulnerable should any further financial turbulence trouble Europe's largest economy.

Despite his confidence in Germany's current soundness, the minister said that financial markets the world over, Germany's included, were still operating under a dense cloud of uncertainty and that he could not guarantee against any future nationalization plans for the nation's banks.

"So far I don't see the need for state takeovers in Germany. The German banking sector has been hit badly by the financial crisis but less hard" than in other countries, Steinbrueck told the Handelsblatt daily.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:23:57 PM EST
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By the way, I had no time to post this: Steinbrück has a plan to save capitalism from itself.

(Note that current federal finance minister Steinbrück is a longstanding top 'reformist' in the SPD, who, back when he was Northrhine-Westphalia PM, even co-authored the (in)famous "Koch-Steinbrück paper" with Hessen PM Roland Koch/CDU, which is cited by reformists as the way to go ever since.)

Yesterday, he suggested this eight-point plan, which he will present at the G8 meeting (I condense it):

  1. Financial innovations must be supported with sufficient own capital ( = equity?) and appear on bank balance sheets.
  2. Banks must be ordered to maintain liquidity buffers of specified minimum size.
  3. International standards for stronger responsibility of bank CEOs (to prevent golden parachutes).
  4. Review of bonuses, which are linked to the insane push for high profit margins.
  5. Closer coordination between IMF and FSF
  6. Internationally agreed temporary ban on short-selling
  7. A ban on creditors handing over 100% of the risk to others
  8. Improve cooperation between national oversight bodies.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 06:03:59 PM EST
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but nationalization willy happen anyway

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 03:13:15 AM EST
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More communist talk in the FT:


Temporary full state ownership is only solution

How to get out of this bad equilibrium? There is only one way. The governments of the big countries (US, UK, the eurozone, possibly Japan) must take over their banking systems (or at least the significant banks). Governments are the only institutions that can solve the co-ordination failure at the heart of the liquidity crisis. They can do this because once the banks are in the hands of the state, they can be ordered to trust each other and to lend to each other. The faster governments take these steps, the better.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:29:43 AM EST
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Is there no other way? Like the government ordering banks to start lending to each other, without nationalisation?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 09:48:44 AM EST
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UK calls for EU-wide rescue plan - EUobserver

In a sharp about face, UK Prime Minister Gordon has written to EU leaders encouraging the creation of a "Europe-wide funding plan" to tackle the worsening financial crisis.

As recently as last week, Mr Brown said his country was opposed to any EU-wide rescue package.

Writing to French President Nicholas Sarkozy on Wednesday (8 October), the British leader gave details on the UK's own £500 billion (€630 billion) plan announced yesterday morning and added that a "concerted international approach" was needed. The letter was also copied to other EU government leaders.

The UK now favours a pan-European plan to deal with the crisis

Speaking to reporters after announcing the UK plan, Mr Brown said he had also spoken to the French leader.

"We have invited other European countries to consider proposals we have put to them this morning on medium term funding and are in active consultation about how we can adopt a European-wide funding plan," he said.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:25:24 PM EST
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Having refused participation in the common currency, peed on the EU policies in general and aims and goals in particular, having tried to go it alone---now Gordon Brown appears, hat in hand.
There may well be some catty sniping around various capitals over this.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 02:00:17 AM EST
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EU-Russia treaty talks risk long delay - EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Negotiations on a new EU-Russia treaty could be held up despite Russia's pull-back from Georgia "buffer zones" on Wednesday (8 October), with Lithuania pushing for Russian troop scale-back in South Ossetia and Abkhazia also before talks restart.

"[Lithuania] wants the EU to respect the agreements created by Sarkozy," an EU diplomat told EUobserver. "It is hoping for the company of other new EU member states, the Nordic countries and London."

Russian soldiers in Georgia - how far back is far enough?

Russian soldiers on Wednesday left two seven-kilometre-wide strips of land surrounding the Georgia breakaway regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, in compliance with a peace deal between Russia and Georgia brokered by French President Nicolas Sarkozy on 8 September.

But Lithuania wants Russia to also respect the earlier Moscow-Tbilisi-Paris peace accord of 12 August, under which "Russian armed forces will be pulled back to the line preceding the start of hostilities."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:26:14 PM EST
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House prices fall at record rate - Europe, World - The Independent

House prices plunged at a new record rate during the year to the end of September - losing 13.2 per cent of their value, Britain's biggest mortgage lender said today.

The fall was the biggest ever recorded by the Halifax house price index, which posted a year-on-year decline of 12.7 per cent in August.

Annual house price inflation, which measures prices during the previous three months compared with the same period a year ago, also dropped to a new record low, with falls of 12.4 per cent, pushing the average cost of a UK home down to £172,108.

But on a brighter note, September saw the smallest monthly fall for seven months- with properties losing 1.3 per cent of their value.

At the same time, the fall of 5.2 per cent during the third quarter was in line with one of 5.1 per cent during the second quarter, suggesting the rate at which prices are falling could be stabilising.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:28:02 PM EST
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If decreases are constant in percentage terms, then they are getting steadily smaller in absolute (£££) terms. The market is turning around, time to buy!!

</not snark>

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 03:15:21 AM EST
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Video: Brown will punish 'irresponsible' fat cats - Times Online

Bankers and financiers who take irresponsible risks should be "punished" for their actions, Gordon Brown said today.

Following yesterday's massive Government bailout for the banks, the Prime Minister spoke of his anger at the way some in the City had behaved.

"I am angry at irresponsible behaviour," he told GMTV. "Our economy is built around people who work hard, who show effort, who take responsible decisions, and whether there is excessive and irresponsible risk-taking, that has got to be punished."

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:29:04 PM EST
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Is anyone holding their breath?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 06:54:31 PM EST
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Mmph. Mmph.Mmm--Phew!
Ok, now that's over.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 02:02:32 AM EST
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Huge bonuses for City high flyers will be hard to rein in | The Guardian | 10.08.2008
In other departments average pay was still £1m a year. Even so, London bankers might consider themselves poorly paid. Those doing the same job in Asia, said the survey, were averaging £1.4m.

"If one bank holds down pay, then staff will leave and go to one that doesn't," said one fund manager. "And if London becomes badly paid then there will be an exodus to Mumbai, Shanghai or Dubai."

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 03:03:34 AM EST
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The obvious solution that won't be followd: Let them go, let them wreck other banks.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:08:30 AM EST
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Bonuses May Fall in London

LONDON -- Bonus payout by banks in London's financial district will be about 60% lower this year, marking the emergence of a culture where bonuses will be smaller and based more on long-term results, the Centre for Economics and Business Research said.

"The million-pound-plus bonuses are going to be few and far between," Richard Snook, a senior economist at the think tank, said.

The research center said it expects the total bonus payout in the City, as London's financial district is known, to slump to £3.6 billion ($6.22 billion) this year from £8.5 billion last year. Next year, the researchers said, it will drop to £2.8 billion.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:26:39 AM EST
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My bet - you heard it here first - The Japanese don't go in for this big bonus, masterbeater of the universe stuff. Their entry into ownership position in the game will chill the market to a marked degree.

Good people, for example in the pro video/broadcast/film world, go to work for Sony and Panasonic. But they don't make what the high flyers do in the industry...but eventually, they beat the rest of the industry and eventually the wages within the industry go down.

Now, we need someone to mark the bet, someone to bet against, a few people to buy insurance that either better will pay if we lose, a few side bets, and a few insurance policies on those, tranch a few of those together and sure, I'll buy a couple shares of those and a couple of shorts on them just to cover myself. but, I think the gory and glory days are gone for a long cycle...meaning, we won't see another criminal usurpation of the economy by nihilistic termites for 16 years instead of  8 years.

HT and apologies to whoever (was it rd?)  who explained RatBastardCapitalismTM in terms of racetrack betting.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 07:33:06 AM EST
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World must follow my example, says Gordon Brown - Times Online

Gordon Brown today calls on nations across the world to follow Britain in its "ground-breaking" moves to save the banking system.

The Prime Minister, writing in The Times, urges other governments to put money into struggling banks and offer similar guarantees worth hundreds of billions to persuade the banks to start lending to each other again.

Amid indications that the United States is considering such moves, Mr Brown calls for a global solution to a global problem. He says that he never expected to find himself taking a government stake in banks but that countries had to abandon "outworn dogmas" and embrace new solutions.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 11:02:07 PM EST
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World must follow my example, says Gordon Brown - Times Online

Krugman:

What should be done? The United States and Europe should just say "Yes, prime minister." The British plan isn't perfect, but there's widespread agreement among economists that it offers by far the best available template for a broader rescue effort.

And the time to act is now. You may think that things can't get any worse -- but they can, and if nothing is done in the next few days, they will.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 03:02:21 AM EST
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The problem is not "fat cats", it's "irresponsible fat cats". Since 'nobody could have predicted" this crisis, then they're not irresponsible.

Problem solved.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 03:16:34 AM EST
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How quickly it appears that the unthinkable phrase a few weeks ago, "outworn dogmas," now has that Prime Ministerial ring.  But we can't say socialism yet.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 04:08:55 AM EST
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Better dread than red.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 04:31:19 AM EST
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Ukraine's Orange revolution victors to become election rivals after coalition collapses - Times Online

Ukraine's pro-Western coalition succumbed to bitter personal rivalry last night after the President dissolved parliament and called a snap election.

The move pits President Yushchenko against his former ally Yuliya Tymoshenko in a struggle for political dominance. The feud between the leaders of the 2004 Orange revolution threatens to open the door for their pro-Russian rival Viktor Yanukovych to make a stunning comeback and tilt Ukraine back towards Moscow.

The election will be the third in two years as Ukraine has lurched from one political crisis to another. It threatens to derail the country's bid for Nato membership at the Nato summit in December and comes as the economy struggles in the face of the global financial crisis.

Mr Yushchenko launched a strong attack on Mrs Tymoshenko, the Prime Minister, in a pre-recorded television address announcing the dissolution of parliament. It was broadcast while he was on a visit to Italy. "I am convinced that the democratic coalition was ruined by one thing alone -- the ambition of one person, the hunger for power . . . and the dominance of personal interests over national ones," he said. The President can dissolve parliament if a new government is not formed within 30 days of the previous one collapsing.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:29:24 PM EST
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EU too divided to solve frozen conflicts, Azerbaijan says - EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Oil and gas-rich rich Azerbaijan, home of another frozen conflict with its neighbouring Russian ally Armenia, does not consider the EU as a feasible peace broker in the region, Azeri deputy foreign minister Araz Azimov has said.

"The European Union is a powerful economic and political union of states, but in terms of acting in a united way, the EU is not there yet, especially in an environment that changes rapidly. The EU it is not able to act in an instrumental way", Mr Azimov said on his expectations of possible EU involvement in finding a solution for the frozen conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.

The Black Sea and the Caspian Sea - where EU energy security meets frozen conflicts

The senior official made the comment at a conference organized in Brussels by the European Policy Center on Wednesday (8 October).

The conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia, which still occupies the Azeri region of Nagorno-Karabakh, is currently mediated by the so-called Minsk group, created by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) in 1992 and headed by France, Russia and the United States.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:30:37 PM EST
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Dublin and Lisbon lead way in cutting road deaths - EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - Although the number of deaths caused by road accidents has been slowly decreasing in the past decade, no fewer than 24,000 people have died on the roads of the EU's 27 capitals alone, a new report has shown.

Dublin and Lisbon have reduced the number of accidents the most over the past two years - dropping respectively 12 and 10 percent per year, while in Helsinki, the figure has increased slightly, according to a survey published on Wednesday (8 October) by the European Transport Safety Council, a Brussels-based NGO.

Pedestrians are among the most vulnerable road users.

Sofia, Bratislava, Madrid, Bucharest, Warsaw, Paris, Copenhagen and Tallinn have also noted a reduction in accidents above the EU average yearly cut of 4.1 percent.

Vienna, Brussels, Amsterdam, London and Rome have on the other hand not decreased the number by more than three percent.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:31:09 PM EST
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Iceland is all but officially bankrupt - International Herald Tribune

REYKJAVIK: People go bankrupt all the time. Companies do, too. But countries?

Iceland was on the verge of doing exactly that on Thursday as the government shut down the stock market and seized control of its last major independent bank. That brought trading in the country's currency to a halt, with foreign banks no longer willing to take Icelandic krona, even at fire-sale rates.

As the meltdown in the Icelandic financial system quickened, with the government seemingly powerless to do anything about it, analysts said there was probably only one realistic option left: for Iceland to be bailed out by the International Monetary Fund.

"Iceland is bankrupt," said Arsaell Valfells, a professor at the University of Iceland. "The Icelandic krona is history. The IMF has to come and rescue us."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:41:51 PM EST
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Financial crisis: Gordon Brown to sue Iceland over near £1bn of frozen bank deposits - Telegraph

The Prime Minister is furious that 300,000 bank customers are blocked from accessing deposits in online bank Icesave.

There are also concerns that councils and police authorities might not be able to retrieve nearly £900m of taxpayers' money which is stranded in Icelandic bank accounts.

Mr Brown told a press conference: "We are taking legal action against the Icelandic authorities. We are showing by our action that we stand by people who save."

Alistair Darling, Chancellor of the Exchequer, added: "The Icelandic government, believe it or not, have told me yesterday they have no intention of honouring their obligations here."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 03:43:14 PM EST
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Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Greed.

They decided not to place their savings in local projects, went outside to gain more more more.

Risk got reward. Someone losses, someone gains.

Now they want to sue because Capitalism Worked.

Great Planet; Funny People

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 01:38:34 AM EST
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councils and police authorities

will, one hopes, be strictly regulated as to where they're allowed to put their money in future? If there's a future.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 04:57:01 AM EST
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Alistair Darling, Chancellor of the Exchequer, added: "The Icelandic government, believe it or not, have told me yesterday they have no intention of honouring their obligations here."

Hey, Alistair, it's called default. Being chancellor I would expect you to be clued up enough in financial matters to be familiar with the concept.

Bozos!

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 05:08:11 AM EST
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EU countries may use economic crisis to ditch climate change commitments
By John Vidal and Juliette Jowit, The Guardian

Leaders of EU countries plan to use the global financial crisis as an excuse to renege on climate change commitments, according to sources close to energy negotiations in Brussels.

Papers seen by the Guardian suggest the EU council, which meets next week, propose dropping the previous commitment to an automatic increase in emissions cuts if the world gets a major climate change agreement next year. It also intends to allow countries to avoid having to cut their own emissions by letting them purchase a large proportion of reductions from overseas.

The current EU target of a 20% reduction in emissions by 2020 will automatically increase to 30% if a global deal is signed. But the papers show that the EU is seeking a completely new legislative process if the EU target is to go over 20%. This effectively shelves the move to 30% and would take many years to complete.

The commission justifies its proposals by saying that EU countries paying for emissions cuts would transfer up to €42bn (£33bn) to developing and other countries from 2008-2020.

What's more important to survival? The planet or your stock and banking portfolio?

by Magnifico on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 04:18:50 PM EST
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This planet will survive just fine, it's just humans and related species which are in serious trouble.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 05:33:19 PM EST
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Obviously, but I didn't come up with a quick way to capture that and make it pithy.
by Magnifico on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 06:18:26 PM EST
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By which standard coral is a related species... ;-)

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 04:09:51 AM EST
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And it is.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 04:28:45 AM EST
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Humans have extended relations.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 05:04:26 AM EST
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As the Lakota begin and end prayers (and even greetings,) Mitakuye Oyasin , meaning All My Relations (or we are all related).  Aho!

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 05:36:47 AM EST
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No prolonged mandate for Barroso, MEPs warn -EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - If the Lisbon Treaty is not in place by June 2009, member states should keep their word on slimming down the European Commission, centre-right MEPs have argued, warning that parliamentarians would be reluctant to support a prolonged mandate for the current team of commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.

Fewer MEPs, fewer commissioners, argues a Spanish deputy

"Time is against us," Spanish conservative deputy Inigo Mendez de Vigo from the constitutional affairs committee in the European Parliament told journalists on Thursday (9 October), following this week's visit by the Irish foreign minister Micheal Martin in Brussels.

Ireland was originally supposed to indicate what it wants to do about the Lisbon Treaty, a reform of the 27-strong Union that was rejected in June by Irish voters, to the heads of states and governments set to gather for a two-day summit on 15 October.

But Mr Martin confirmed to MEPs on Monday (6 October) that Dublin needs time for "comprehensive research" and only by December does the country "expect to be able... to outline the necessary steps to achieve our objective of continued full engagement in the Union."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 11:03:00 PM EST
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Iraqi who risked all for Britain is left to his fate in Basra - Times Online

An interpreter employed by the Army in Basra for five years has been refused a place on a scheme to resettle Iraqi employees in Britain because he is deemed to be a security risk.

Mohammed Motlag, 47, had been told that he and his family could be among the first to be relocated to Britain under a fast-track programme to offer asylum to current Army employees. He has learnt, however, that his application for asylum has been rejected for "security reasons".

Mr Motlag, whose five-year-old son was kidnapped because of his work for the British, said: "It was very shameful to learn that the British did not accept me. My wife had to be taken to hospital because she fainted upon hearing the news.

"I cried. I have liked Britain since I was a child. I grew up reading Shake-speare and used to think, `What a civili-sation'."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 11:04:31 PM EST
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he must have missed the bit about 'perfidious albion'

~Government budget deficits are not nearly as dangerous as the deficits we have created in vital and complex natural systems.~ Naomi Klein.
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 07:25:00 PM EST
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Luc Chatel (speaker for the Government) is currently spinning the Sarkozy Toulon speech.

He's just said that when Sarkozy made this speech, people were interested by his new ideas but claimed that this was a non starter. And that they (and in that they he specifically mentioned the FMI president Dominique Strauss Kahn) are now coming to his position.

[Cyrille's Jawdrop™ Technology]

FMI had been saying that months before the French Government would admit that there was a crisis. Back then, Sarko was vehemently complaining that FMI was completely silly in its predictions because it was talking about a slowdown in France, and was going to the UK to worship -litterally worship- their model. We were all to emulate the brilliancy of the City.

Now Luc Chatel is explaining that Sarko was a precursor, speaking in the desert for increasing regulation, dismissing the cult of money and kickstarting a major reaction plan.

As usual, the journalist pretty much let that pass (his only objection was that despite the Toulon speech the stock exchange had stayed very nervous).

"Few can believe that suffering, especially by others, is in vain. - Galbraith"

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 01:56:22 AM EST
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Sorry, FMI in English is IMF

"Few can believe that suffering, especially by others, is in vain. - Galbraith"
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 01:57:03 AM EST
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And despite littérature, litterally is literally (I noticed a number of you French-speakers doing this over the past week)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:12:33 AM EST
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One has the feeling that such drivel is for the consumption of the base- diehard supporters--a narrative that they can grab onto to ease their growing panic--

But ARE there still diehard supporters? Yes. The true authoritarian would buy the package if Sarko the Magnificent was caught buggering boy scouts in the Arc de Triumphe.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 02:12:20 AM EST
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A huhe - HUGE - headline saying "79% of the French still trust their bank"

That smacks of desperation big time. They might as well put a headline saying "all is well, and anyway it's not Sarkozy's fault"!!

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 03:19:53 AM EST
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How about "11% of the French no longer trust their bank"? What communist rag will print that headline?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 03:44:49 AM EST
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if its mathematicians can't do basic arithmetic... ;-)

100-79=21

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:32:04 AM EST
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LOL

The remaining 10% don't know/didn't answer?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:33:28 AM EST
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By headlining the question and using the word "still" (toujours), it validates doubt, and 79% isn't a smack-down figure (as Migeru points out).

What percent of depositors is needed to start a bank run?

Stupid and dangerous headline.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 05:25:28 AM EST
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Labour peers urge Brown to back down in detention fight | Politics | The Guardian
Labour peers urge Brown to back down in detention fight * PM warned he faces heavy Lords defeat on 42 days
* Downing Street advised to avoid confrontation

The new leader of the House of Lords is to ask Gordon Brown to drop plans to force through the detention of terror suspects for up to 42 days.

A meeting of Labour peers on Wednesday night asked Lady Royall to tell the prime minister that it would be better to abandon the measure before a vote, rather than face a humiliating defeat when the clause is debated in the Lords on Monday.

Among previously loyal Labour peers expected to rebel are Lord Goldsmith, the former attorney general, and Lord Falconer, the former lord chancellor.

The Labour peers have warned the government not to start a new confrontation between the Lords and the Commons over the issue, and to avoid invoking the Parliament Act to get the clause on the statute book. As a compromise, Labour peers want Brown to set up a working group to examine the best way to fight terrorism and safeguard civil liberties without resorting to an extension of the present 28-day detention without trial.

According to sources at the meeting, a number of Labour loyalists who had previously supported longer detention of terror suspects indicated that they had changed their minds, and would be very reluctant to support the government on Monday. Ministers already face united opposition from the Conservative and Liberal Democrat frontbench in the Lords, as well as eminent crossbench peers including Lady Manningham-Buller, former head of MI5, and the former lord chief justice, Lord Woolf .



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 04:12:07 AM EST
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BBC: Ahtisaari wins Nobel Peace Prize

This year's Nobel Peace Prize has been won by peace negotiator Martti Ahtisaari, the Nobel Foundation has announced in Oslo, Norway.
Finland's ex-president has been the UN special envoy for talks on the final status of Kosovo and mediated a 2005 accord in Indonesia's Aceh province.



You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 05:20:19 AM EST
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Meh... is it because the Nobel Peace Prize body is under the illusion that Kosovarian independence was a great victory for peace?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:14:30 AM EST
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or is that scoop code for recommended diaries has been secretly altered to ensure that J's banker CV is ever-visible at the top in these troubles times?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:20:58 AM EST
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A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:21:59 AM EST
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I can send you a book on Surrealism... ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:27:31 AM EST
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I think I have that front covered just reading the financial crisis news.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:29:36 AM EST
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....expects the Spanish Inquisition!"

Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms!"



You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:47:19 AM EST
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Man, I don't have any of those weapons. I feel so inadequate.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:50:44 AM EST
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Actually, the "baring bonker" diary got 31 recs, which partly explains the long run at the top. Only partly, of course ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 10:18:23 AM EST
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BBC Mark Mardell's Euroblog: Get Ganley!

But Declan Ganley, the millionaire businessman who bankrolled and masterminded the successful "No" campaign in the Irish referendum, is a target all the same. Many in the European establishment would like to see Mr Ganley come a cropper, see his campaigning days terminated and his nascent political career liquidated before he can do any more damage.
The mysterious Mr Ganley is now talking about turning his think-tank Libertas into an EU-wide political party. He's been touring Europe looking for support for his campaign to turn next year's elections to the European Parliament into another referendum: on what he calls the anti-democratic Europe of the Lisbon Treaty. You remember - that's the one that so many say is just like the constitution the Dutch and French threw out.



You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Oct 10th, 2008 at 06:26:29 AM EST
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