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I must admit that I know so little about whether or not this will make any difference that I hesitate to comment.

However one of the things that seems obvious to me is that the banks got into this mess with their own profligate behaviour, especially in terms of rewarding dangerous levels of risk. Yet this money seems to be a message to carry on doing what they were doing. I will not be alone in being angered when traders start getting their multi-million Xmas bonuses on my taxes. this money shoudl comew with strings attached that say "you're all civil servants now and you don't get bonuses for doing your job".

Within a week of AIG being baled out by the US, the entire senior staff pissed off to a spa resort for a week, running up a bill of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Maybe there ought to be a group of aggrieved taxpayers turfing fat cats out of fancy restaurants saying, "Not on my money, you ain't".

Entire departments need to be phased out of existence, entire transaction disciplines need to be rendered illegal, certain fiscal methods needs to be curtailed. Banking needs to be neutered to prevent it ever threatening the economy again, it's infrastructure and should be rendered a low-profit activity.

And I still think we should guillotine a few of 'em and parade their dripping heads through the streets on poles.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:31:06 AM EST
"And I still think we should guillotine a few of 'em and parade their dripping heads through the streets on poles."

Helen, I'll only have one word: oestrogens!

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:38:54 AM EST
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(What was it again? ['s Macho Moment of the Day™ Technology] ?)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:39:44 AM EST
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Try again
[Cyrille's Macho Moment of the Day™ Technology]

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:40:04 AM EST
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I'm sorry, my personality was twisted by 25 years of being resentfully, unwillingly male. Rancid vindictiveness long gouged deep raw chasms for the acid bile to flow thorugh uninterrrupted.

5 years of oestrogen hasn't yet begun to soften the blasted landscapes inside my head. It just stops it getting worse.

I won't use French cos I know it annoys some, but my method would at least "encourage better behaviour in certain others who might otherwise be tempted". right now we're just saying "carry on, we've got plenty more for you to waste. Triple bonuses for everyone !!!"

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:27:54 AM EST
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Helen:
Rancid vindictiveness long gouged deep raw chasms for the acid bile to flow through uninterrupted.

thanks for bringing back some of the unique flavours of being raised in good old blighty, you got pretty much my whole early adolescent mindset summed up in that pithy sentence.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 06:33:11 PM EST
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As a believer in non-violent solutions, I can't go with the guillotine. I did sinfully enjoy the story that Lehman CEO Fuld got punched in the face unconscious at his gym for being so arrogant and blaming everyone but himself. You'd need a few bob to be a member of that type of gym, so I assume it would have been one of his peers who was so incensed.

Hopefully, as the loss of pig wealth accelerates, there will be more fisticuffs among the inmates. And if weapons were to be used then I think I can morally put it down to the useful process of self-culling. But otherwise, I am with Ghandi on this.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:42:21 AM EST
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And I still think we should guillotine a few of 'em and parade their dripping heads through the streets on poles.

I was the first one to mention guillotining over a year ago and I AM THE RESIDENT ET LOONIE!  :)

Please get back to being a nice peaceful even-tempered European.  Leave the violence to the people who really like to see blood flow ... AMERICANS!

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:58:17 AM EST
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That's the problem, you see the violence as a product. That's amateur hour.

Violence is a method. Everything is a weapon, terror is a tactic. It's what you intend that guides your hand in all this. This is too important to leave to those who want to enjoy the mayhem. A cool head and a chilled hand is what's needed in bloody times.

Smashing stuff will not do. Some say "if you go to shoot the king, you must shoot to kill". I would say you must do more than shoot the king, you must kill the idea of king. Lay it waste and salt the fields where the idea grew and festered. Methods, weapons, tactics; all flow from intent. Not vice versa.

Don't invite me to your revolution, I'll spoil your fun and make it something terrible.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:41:09 AM EST
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And I still think we should guillotine a few of 'em and parade their dripping heads through the streets on poles.
 

I used to have an appetite for this kind of punishment but I've changed my mind. Let them just for their entire life live like we "middle class" live...they will commit suicide straight away...
by vbo on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:50:29 AM EST
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