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LONDON (AFP) - Britain rushed out a package worth up to 875 billion dollars Wednesday to head off a banking collapse as markets went into freefall over fears the worst financial crisis in decades has still not hit a peak.

Panic selling set hit key European and Asian stock exchanges and a drop of nearly 10 percent in Tokyo prompted Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso to voice "huge fears" for the future of the world's second biggest economy.

Central bank moves to increase the amount of available credit did little to calm the frenzy.

Unveiling a package which will see Britain's eight main banks part-nationalised, Prime Minister Gordon Brown said "extraordinary times call for... bold and far-reaching solutions."


Amazing how these things grow.

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 07:56:01 AM EST
Darling managed to beat Paulson by 25 to 40%, who whoulda thunk?

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 07:58:06 AM EST
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with an economy a fifth the size...

But if you count the full £500 bn, you need to count the full range of interventions by the Fed up to now, as it has taken increasingly shitty collateral and is now accepting commercial paper.

Some have priced the total commitments of public money at $2.6 trillion already (see my link to Ian Welsh in my nationlaisation diary).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:03:36 AM EST
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But you also have to count the BofE interventions to date...

Though Chris Cook has argued convincingly the BofE is actually making money out of NR...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:04:35 AM EST
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In per-capita terms Ireland takes the cookie (Iceland tried but couldn't make it).

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:05:36 AM EST
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What a colossal robbery...and no one is even blinking...
Either those BILLIONS are already not worth anything (and we are about to find this out pretty soon) or really robbery of colossal proportion on international scale is taking place just in front of our eyes.
by vbo on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:28:50 AM EST
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I vote BOTH!

The music's over. I've turned out the lights. Bye Bye.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 09:30:34 AM EST
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It's really scary how right you've been. If you had put your money where your mouth have been, we could have had a €100 million think tank by now. ;)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 11:31:56 AM EST
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Better to do it with Soros' money.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 11:35:04 AM EST
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psst...hey wanna be our broker?

we'll send in €5 a month each monthly and you play with it on your laptop while we're slaving away and take yer cut, ya lazy number-crunching capitalist sod!

:)

help us off the hamster-wheel into the vaunted realms of the elite 1%!

beat the crunch with ((*Mig's Asset Protection IncTM))

why doesn't the macro thingy work, did i blunder?

The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it. Chinese Proverb.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 05:53:42 PM EST
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with the current state of the markets the best strategy would be   to put your money here

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 05:59:48 PM EST
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The easiest way to win the lottery is to fill in the forms for lottery funding.

Not that ET would qualify.

Would it.

Would it? [long pause for thought...]

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 at 09:33:21 AM EST
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Unveiling a package which will see Britain's eight main banks part-nationalised, Prime Minister Gordon Brown said "extraordinary times call for... bold and far-reaching solutions."

Gordon, you're still being timid.

Just let them fail, take them over, guarantee the deposits, wipe out shareholders and creditors, dismiss the management, reorganise the operations and resell them if and when there's an appetite for private ownership of banks.

£25+25bn is not bold or far-reaching.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:01:31 AM EST
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The macho economy seems to have gone from competition about who has the biggest annual return to competition about who can score the biggest government handout.

¨Mine was $700bn.¨

¨But mine was 800% of GDP.¨

A brave try by the UK, but Ireland's epic opening move is going to be tough to beat.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 at 08:57:15 AM EST
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